Mr T
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Yes, the Russian media being the most trustworthy in the world.
It's almost as if some people want Japan to suffer......
Japan Earthquake
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Yes, the Russian media being the most trustworthy in the world.
It's almost as if some people want Japan to suffer......
Well we know a lot of people would want China to suffer if this happened to it instead...
I don't know where you got that from anyway -- most users on this forum have been very supportive of Japan in this crisis.
Schumacher
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So it looks like Japan didn't lie after all, technically, when they insisted there were no meltdown at Fukushima.
What we have instead is a melt-through.
And it gets better, plutonium was found outside the plant for the first time.
Japan fears meltdown worse than first thought
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Australian Broadcasting Corporation
Broadcast: 10/06/2011
Reporter: Mark Willacy
Japanese authorities admit nuclear material in the crippled Fukushima nuclear power plant's reactor may have leaked into the ground.
Transcript
ALI MOORE, PRESENTER: Japanese authorities have admitted the crisis at the Fukushima nuclear plant in March may have been worse than a core meltdown.
In an official report that will go to the UN's nuclear watchdog, Japan says nuclear fuel in three reactors possibly melted through several pressure vessels and into the earth below.
As North Asia correspondent Mark Willacy reports, a so-called melt-through is the worst outcome in a nuclear accident.
MARK WILLACY, REPORTER: For the Japanese the news from Fukushima gets worse every day.
This week it went from a reactor meltdown to what they're calling a melt-through.
GOSHI HOSONO, SPECIAL ADVISOR TO JAPANESE PM (Translation): At present there is damage to the bottom of the reactor container, we call this ‘core melting’ in English. Part of the nuclear fuel has fallen onto the dry earth floor and it's possible that it's still lodged there.
MARK WILLACY: According to atomic experts, this is about as serious as it gets in a nuclear disaster. Dangerous levels of radioactive iodine and cesium have already contaminated the sea, the soil, groundwater, and the air.
This week plutonium was detected for the first time outside the stricken plant, and Strontium-90, known as a bone seeker because it can cause bone cancer and Leukaemia, has now been found as far away as 60 kilometres from the facility.
Higher levels were found closer to the plant in Minamisoma, a city of 70,000.
TETSURO FUKUYAMA, GOVERNMENT SPOKESMAN (Translation): Hot spots were found, meaning there were certain spots with very high readings of radiation.
MARK WILLACY: In a country built on conformity and compliance, there's now growing criticism of the government's handling of the crisis.
SHINGO MIMURA, GOVERNOR OF AOMORI PREFECTURE (Translation): It's really difficult for us to understand how the Japanese government determined its safety.
KATSUNOBU SAKURAI, MINAMISOMA MAYOR (Translation): I think the government panicked. Considering so many people had to lock themselves indoors for so long, then drawing a line 20-30 kilometres around the plant, judging it by distance alone, this is questionable.
MARK WILLACY: Ordinary citizens are now taking the government to task for its handling of the Fukushima disaster.
Law school graduate, Takanori Eto, even plans to sue.
TAKANORI ETO, PLAINTIFF (Translation): There are dangers inherent in the government's nuclear policy. From the beginning mistakes were made. Even after the accident the Japanese government was unable to protect the people.
So rather than remain silent I wanted to bring these lapses to light in a law suit.
MARK WILLACY: This week, in a draft report to the United Nations atomic watchdog, Japan admitted that it wasn't prepared for the Fukushima meltdown.
It also acknowledged that its nuclear regulator was run by a ministry, which has been the chief promoter of nuclear energy for decades.
BANRI KAIEDA, INDUSTRY MINISTER (Translation): As a first step we have to make the Nuclear Safety Agency independent of the industry minister.
MARK WILLACY: For many Japanese, it's too little, too late. Instead, they're bracing themselves for more bad news next week.
Mark Willacy, Lateline.
What we have instead is a melt-through.
And it gets better, plutonium was found outside the plant for the first time.
Japan fears meltdown worse than first thought
Print Email
Australian Broadcasting Corporation
Broadcast: 10/06/2011
Reporter: Mark Willacy
Japanese authorities admit nuclear material in the crippled Fukushima nuclear power plant's reactor may have leaked into the ground.
Transcript
ALI MOORE, PRESENTER: Japanese authorities have admitted the crisis at the Fukushima nuclear plant in March may have been worse than a core meltdown.
In an official report that will go to the UN's nuclear watchdog, Japan says nuclear fuel in three reactors possibly melted through several pressure vessels and into the earth below.
As North Asia correspondent Mark Willacy reports, a so-called melt-through is the worst outcome in a nuclear accident.
MARK WILLACY, REPORTER: For the Japanese the news from Fukushima gets worse every day.
This week it went from a reactor meltdown to what they're calling a melt-through.
GOSHI HOSONO, SPECIAL ADVISOR TO JAPANESE PM (Translation): At present there is damage to the bottom of the reactor container, we call this ‘core melting’ in English. Part of the nuclear fuel has fallen onto the dry earth floor and it's possible that it's still lodged there.
MARK WILLACY: According to atomic experts, this is about as serious as it gets in a nuclear disaster. Dangerous levels of radioactive iodine and cesium have already contaminated the sea, the soil, groundwater, and the air.
This week plutonium was detected for the first time outside the stricken plant, and Strontium-90, known as a bone seeker because it can cause bone cancer and Leukaemia, has now been found as far away as 60 kilometres from the facility.
Higher levels were found closer to the plant in Minamisoma, a city of 70,000.
TETSURO FUKUYAMA, GOVERNMENT SPOKESMAN (Translation): Hot spots were found, meaning there were certain spots with very high readings of radiation.
MARK WILLACY: In a country built on conformity and compliance, there's now growing criticism of the government's handling of the crisis.
SHINGO MIMURA, GOVERNOR OF AOMORI PREFECTURE (Translation): It's really difficult for us to understand how the Japanese government determined its safety.
KATSUNOBU SAKURAI, MINAMISOMA MAYOR (Translation): I think the government panicked. Considering so many people had to lock themselves indoors for so long, then drawing a line 20-30 kilometres around the plant, judging it by distance alone, this is questionable.
MARK WILLACY: Ordinary citizens are now taking the government to task for its handling of the Fukushima disaster.
Law school graduate, Takanori Eto, even plans to sue.
TAKANORI ETO, PLAINTIFF (Translation): There are dangers inherent in the government's nuclear policy. From the beginning mistakes were made. Even after the accident the Japanese government was unable to protect the people.
So rather than remain silent I wanted to bring these lapses to light in a law suit.
MARK WILLACY: This week, in a draft report to the United Nations atomic watchdog, Japan admitted that it wasn't prepared for the Fukushima meltdown.
It also acknowledged that its nuclear regulator was run by a ministry, which has been the chief promoter of nuclear energy for decades.
BANRI KAIEDA, INDUSTRY MINISTER (Translation): As a first step we have to make the Nuclear Safety Agency independent of the industry minister.
MARK WILLACY: For many Japanese, it's too little, too late. Instead, they're bracing themselves for more bad news next week.
Mark Willacy, Lateline.
Red___Sword
Junior Member
Noted.
(What else can we say? boycott japenese-what's-so-ever-related-stuff/things? They will call you "maim adder" and all the spot light will instead focous on you)
(What else can we say? boycott japenese-what's-so-ever-related-stuff/things? They will call you "maim adder" and all the spot light will instead focous on you)
Schumacher
Senior Member
Some were unhappy with Russia saying they detected radiation on Japanese cars. Now, Chile has also detected radiation and Australia is starting to test Japanese cars for radiation.
"Radiation testing for cars shipped from Japan
Cars arriving in Port Kembla on Thursday via ship will be tested to ensure they haven't been exposed to radiation from the Fukishima nuclear power plant.
The Martime Union of Australia raised concerns about the shipment after similar cargo exported to Chile was found to contain low levels of radiation.
Warren Smith from the MUA says the Australian Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety Agency has agreed to test the cars, but they might not be the only cargo exposed to radioactive fallout in Japan.
"We're of the view testing needs to be more comprehensive and needs to be expanded into other forms of cargo than motor
vehicles," he said.
"The Japanese government has a process in place where it is meant to check containers and ships.
For a start we were uncertain whether or not cars were part of that."........................"
"Radiation testing for cars shipped from Japan
Cars arriving in Port Kembla on Thursday via ship will be tested to ensure they haven't been exposed to radiation from the Fukishima nuclear power plant.
The Martime Union of Australia raised concerns about the shipment after similar cargo exported to Chile was found to contain low levels of radiation.
Warren Smith from the MUA says the Australian Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety Agency has agreed to test the cars, but they might not be the only cargo exposed to radioactive fallout in Japan.
"We're of the view testing needs to be more comprehensive and needs to be expanded into other forms of cargo than motor
vehicles," he said.
"The Japanese government has a process in place where it is meant to check containers and ships.
For a start we were uncertain whether or not cars were part of that."........................"
Not to get too political but I think most oriental societies, regardless of their political systems, want to save face when disasters like this occurs. I have a feeling that the Japanese government is still hiding something.
Red___Sword
Junior Member
I hereby making a suggest that we change the title of this thread into:
The disaster of Japan.
1. NOT ONLY earthquake is ripping the good nation of Japan, but there are OTHER THINGS taking good human life also.
2. In nature, people don't know "which one" we are talking about, after certain amount of time (Earthquake is a natural thing at Japan); the sugguested new title, is timeless.
3. The current title blames God too much (the "act-of-god" sentiment).
The disaster of Japan.
1. NOT ONLY earthquake is ripping the good nation of Japan, but there are OTHER THINGS taking good human life also.
2. In nature, people don't know "which one" we are talking about, after certain amount of time (Earthquake is a natural thing at Japan); the sugguested new title, is timeless.
3. The current title blames God too much (the "act-of-god" sentiment).
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Schumacher
Senior Member
I personally don't like Japanese food but if you do, make sure the restaurant don't import their food from Japan. With Japan playing Russian roulette even with their local food supply, you can bet there are even less checks on the food they export.
"Radiation concerns for Japan's beef supply
By TOMOKO A. HOSAKA , 07.17.11, 03:25 PM EDT
TOKYO -- Concerns about radiation-tainted beef intensified Sunday in Japan as officials struggled to determine the scope of the problem and prevent further contamination of the meat supply.
The government prepared to suspend cattle shipments from Fukushima amid a growing tally of cows that fed on rice straw containing high levels of radioactive cesium. The development underscores the widespread and still-unfolding impact of the nuclear crisis at the Fukushima Dai-ichi power plant.
The straw was harvested from rice paddies in the prefecture after the March 11 earthquake and tsunami damaged cooling systems and triggered the release of radiation from the plant. The region's agricultural sector was among the hardest-hit as radiation seeped into water, affecting spinach and other leafy vegetables.
Distributors nationwide bought meat from the exposed cows, and some has already reached consumers.
Major supermarket chain operator Aeon Co. says more than 703 pounds (319 kilograms) of that meat ended up at 14 of its outlets in Tokyo and nearby prefectures. Between late April and mid-June, customers at those stores bought beef that came from a farm in Asakawa, Fukushima where cattle ate radiation-trained straw, according to the company.
Aeon says it will protect consumers by strengthening its radiation testing systems for beef............................................"
"Radiation concerns for Japan's beef supply
By TOMOKO A. HOSAKA , 07.17.11, 03:25 PM EDT
TOKYO -- Concerns about radiation-tainted beef intensified Sunday in Japan as officials struggled to determine the scope of the problem and prevent further contamination of the meat supply.
The government prepared to suspend cattle shipments from Fukushima amid a growing tally of cows that fed on rice straw containing high levels of radioactive cesium. The development underscores the widespread and still-unfolding impact of the nuclear crisis at the Fukushima Dai-ichi power plant.
The straw was harvested from rice paddies in the prefecture after the March 11 earthquake and tsunami damaged cooling systems and triggered the release of radiation from the plant. The region's agricultural sector was among the hardest-hit as radiation seeped into water, affecting spinach and other leafy vegetables.
Distributors nationwide bought meat from the exposed cows, and some has already reached consumers.
Major supermarket chain operator Aeon Co. says more than 703 pounds (319 kilograms) of that meat ended up at 14 of its outlets in Tokyo and nearby prefectures. Between late April and mid-June, customers at those stores bought beef that came from a farm in Asakawa, Fukushima where cattle ate radiation-trained straw, according to the company.
Aeon says it will protect consumers by strengthening its radiation testing systems for beef............................................"
solarz
Brigadier
That's funny. I know of at least one Japanese sushi restaurant that put up a sign saying that they have not imported any food ingredients from Japan after March 11.
Since the local Canadian press almost never mentions any radiation danger from Japan, I can only surmise that the majority of that restaurant's clientele must be Korean and Chinese.
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