J-35 carrier fighter (PLAN) thread

[HeQin]

I remember Fu Qianshao said 110kn.

Thats definitely with afterburning right? Really wish those are military thrust number

 

[Red tsunami]

Thats definitely with afterburning right? Really wish those are military thrust number

Don't forget that ws-19 is medium-thrust engine.

 

[Gloire_bb]

I would add that being able to carry four ALCMs (something like between KH-59MK2 or JSM/SOM) internally would be a very capable strike loadout for both J-XY/35 and J-20, and somewhat more sensible than seeking to have the ability to carry a large diameter 2000lb/1000kg class PGM, after all, that sort of diameter/length profile like that of F-35's central weapons stations would only really be useful for unpowered strike weapons, as powered strike weapons you would have the option to design a more slender profile anyway,

Well, the whole reason behind F-35 design was precisely to be able to use PGMs within line of sight.
So again, it's unfair to criticize jet for its primary requirement.

In the end, unpowered munitions (including those with a more traditional L : D ratio) have their unquestionable pros.

Just two different jets - two different sets of priorities - two different approaches. J-XY is undoubtedly more slender, and (probably) way more a2a-centric.

 

[sndef888]

Well, the whole reason behind F-35 design was precisely to be able to use PGMs within line of sight.
So again, it's unfair to criticize jet for its primary requirement.

In the end, unpowered munitions (including those with a more traditional L : D ratio) have their unquestionable pros.

Just two different jets - two different sets of priorities - two different approaches. J-XY is undoubtedly more slender, and (probably) way more a2a-centric.

It certainly makes sense to be more a2a centric. Afterall China has the advantage of only being concerned with nearby theatres that can also be reached by ground missiles and mlrs

 

[pakje]

To play devil's advocate why is China even developing the WS-13 if it weren't for this jet? The JF-17s are not being upgraded to it as far as we know.

 

[tphuang]

To play devil's advocate why is China even developing the WS-13 if it weren't for this jet? The JF-17s are not being upgraded to it as far as we know.

Hmm, ws13 is probably a strong option for jf17 now that Russian military industrial complex needs to concentrate on war effort. Especially for new buyers that don't want to face secondary sanctions. Non ab ws13 are also widely used on the ucavs.

Having said that, I do expect WS-13E to be the initial engines for testing j35.

 

[Deino]

Hmm, ws13 is probably a strong option for jf17 now that Russian military industrial complex needs to concentrate on war effort. Especially for new buyers that don't want to face secondary sanctions. Non ab ws13 are also widely used on the ucavs.

Having said that, I do expect WS-13E to be the initial engines for testing j35.

... and wasn't / isn't a non-afterburning version used by the GJ-11?

 

[siegecrossbow]

... and wasn't / isn't a non-afterburning version used by the GJ-11?

It is.

 

[tphuang]

... and wasn't / isn't a non-afterburning version used by the GJ-11?

Not only that, I think ch7 is designed around 2 non ab ws13s.

Aside from drones, I am not sure how many aircraft might be using it.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Not only that, I think ch7 is designed around 2 non ab ws13s.

Aside from drones, I am not sure how many aircraft might be using it.

The important thing about engine development is that the engine must be used. WS-10 had a lot of problems starting out but the kinks got worked out under heavy use on the J-11B.