J-35 carrier fighter (PLAN) thread

[Blitzo]

But CGs? There is already a thread for that.

It's fine
It's not like we are getting regular images of the aircraft anyway, and for other aircraft types when they were new, like J-20, Y-20, FC-31, it was also acceptable to post new, high effort CGIs.

The jet nozzles are depicted as fully dilated, which would indicate the engines are idling. I thought carrier fighters throttle their engines up to militany thrust just before catching the wire so if the aircraft miss the wire, the engine would already be spooled up and ready to send the fighter on a go around. The nozzle of An engine on military thrust should be fully contracted for Venturi effect.

It's a CGI, so just take it as artistic license.

 

[ecaedus]

no explanation needed

(CG by @高山CG)

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do we think j-35 will have a EOTS system capable of ground targeting like what the CG is depicting? or is the current system on J-20 going to carry over instead? i'm hoping for the former as it only seems fitting carrier based fighters can carry out ground strike missions.

 

[Blitzo]

do we think j-35 will have a EOTS system capable of ground targeting like what the CG is depicting? or is the current system on J-20 going to carry over instead? i'm hoping for the former as it only seems fitting carrier based fighters can carry out ground strike missions.

From pictures of the aircraft, it already confirms that it has a chin faceted EO sensor similar in overall external appearance to that of J-20 and F-35.


We do not know if it is A2A oriented like that of J-20, or if it is also intended for A2G role like that of F-35.

Either option is plausible at this stage, though naturally a sensor that is capable of both A2A and A2G would offer more flexibility, though using it in that manner would require the aircraft to be relatively close to the target (either for ISR purposes or for A2G engagement purposes), i.e. within 100km of the target, and realistically how many missions would demand a stealth aircraft to be that close with a EO A2G sensor.


In short, maybe A2A only, maybe A2A and A2G.

 

[SinoSoldier]

From pictures of the aircraft, it already confirms that it has a chin faceted EO sensor similar in overall external appearance to that of J-20 and F-35.
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We do not know if it is A2A oriented like that of J-20, or if it is also intended for A2G role like that of F-35.

Either option is plausible at this stage, though naturally a sensor that is capable of both A2A and A2G would offer more flexibility, though using it in that manner would require the aircraft to be relatively close to the target (either for ISR purposes or for A2G engagement purposes), i.e. within 100km of the target, and realistically how many missions would demand a stealth aircraft to be that close with a EO A2G sensor.


In short, maybe A2A only, maybe A2A and A2G.

The slim fuselage vs that of the F-35 suggests more of an air-to-air role. However that doesn't rule out the addition of small ALCMs or externally-mounted weapons pods in the future.

 

[sheogorath]

The slim fuselage vs that of the F-35 suggests more of an air-to-air role. However that doesn't rule out the addition of small ALCMs or externally-mounted weapons pods in the future.

A big reason why the F-35 is so fat has to do with the Lift-Fan requirement of the B variant which affected the A and C, too.

The J-35, not being burdened with the requirements of a VTOL variant, can be "slimer"

 

[gongolongo]

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A big reason why the F-35 is so fat has to do with the Lift-Fan requirement of the B variant which affected the A and C, too.

The J-35, not being burdened with the requirements of a VTOL variant, can be "slimer"

The weapons bays are still pretty deep to be honest.

 

[SinoSoldier]

A big reason why the F-35 is so fat has to do with the Lift-Fan requirement of the B variant which affected the A and C, too.

The J-35, not being burdened with the requirements of a VTOL variant, can be "slimer"

No, the weapons of the F-35 are deeper, a design advantage that is aided by the fact that it is single-engined (and thus the bays can go deeper around the engine "tunnel"). The F-35 can carry a 2000-lb Mk. 84 in each of its bays, something that I doubt the J-XY would be capable of doing.

 

[james smith esq]

The slim fuselage vs that of the F-35 suggests more of an air-to-air role. However that doesn't rule out the addition of small ALCMs or externally-mounted weapons pods in the future.

You don’t think it could be loaded-out as such:

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[Blitzo]

The slim fuselage vs that of the F-35 suggests more of an air-to-air role. However that doesn't rule out the addition of small ALCMs or externally-mounted weapons pods in the future.

We were discussing whether the chin mounted electro optic sensor would have an A2G role in addition to A2A role, or if it would only be A2A oriented.

While it is certainly true that the J-XY/35 does not have as deep of a weapons bay as the central deep weapons stations that F-35 has (which is used for larger diameter A2G weapons or PGMs), I don't think that necessarily is a factor that influences whether the J-XY/35's chin electrooptic sensor.


An A2G role for the chin sensor means air to ground monitoring, laser spot tracking, laser designation capabilities, all at appropriate range.
That doesn't really require an aircraft to be able to accommodate a 1000kg diameter PGM internally, because such a A2G role for the sensor is also useful even say, if your internal weapons bay was "only" fully loaded with 100kg SDB class PGMs.

 

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