J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread V

[weig2000]

About the same time that Taiwan's AF Chief failed to distinguish J-20 and J-31, Taiwan's Mainland Office Director was put to test by the Legislature Yuan. Asked to name the seven members of Standing Committee of the CCP's Politburo Bureau, the highest ruling body of mainland China, she could not name them all. This is hardly giving confidence, considering that she is the highest ranking official in charge of mainland affairs in Taiwan.

Most people in Taiwan know that militarily and, psychologically, Taiwan is a lost cause against mainland China. Morale in military is very low; training is poor. Defense spending relative to GDP is low, particularly for an island believed to be under threat by a much stronger opponent.

But let's cut some slack on Taiwan's AF Chief: what exactly do you expect him to say about F-16V vs. J-20 in public? That F-16V can't stand a chance against J-20? Come on.

 

[AssassinsMace]

I remember reading an article where it interviewed Taiwanese about what they know about China. They were shown pictures of cities in China and they thought it was Tokyo. Many people didn't know there were skyscrapers in China. This is just how the propaganda machine works. The reasons they're not taught actual facts on China is because they have to believe and make it look that Taiwan is successful why China is not to in order to legitimize the Taiwanese government.

 

[Skywatcher]

The reticence of the US to "arm up Taiwan" has been out of respect to China and their "sensitivities", we wish to not ignite any further paranoia, and while we respect their sovereign territory, we will defend our allies....

So the Taiwanese Air Force Chief is very confident that the US will keep our promises to be there, and he has every reason to confident in these up-graded F-16s.
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What on God's green earth are you talking about!

There is no ***king treaty commitment by us Americans to Taiwan/ROC! We have made no such idiotic promises to Taipei to do zilch for them in the event of war!

I don't care what those pan green idiots and their fellow travelers in America claim and lie, there is no such treaty obligation upon the United States of America to do anything in the event of conflict.

 

[taxiya]

I bet you guys would love to see the Eng in the J-20, try to see if he could "turn inside of me" in the F-22??? I think I could take you Eng!

As the Eng has said, this bird has an outstanding "pitch transition", even without OVT!

To me there is "nothing" quite as kool as these birds disappearing in a "vapor burst", I can't wait until we see the J-20 get "down and dirty", I would like to see it on the deck in a tail chase with an F-22.

For all you characters who claim to be able to make an objective comparison, with-out making a comparison, I know you would love to see that too ! LOL



Air Force Chiefs are very well informed, the upgraded F-16V will function much like our upgraded F-15s and will no doubt be networking with home team F-22s and F-35s....

People are making a number of assumptions that the J-20 will an equivalent with the F-22 or F-35. As good as the J-20 is, it will no doubt have vulnerabilities which can and will be exploited.

The reticence of the US to "arm up Taiwan" has been out of respect to China and their "sensitivities", we wish to not ignite any further paranoia, and while we respect their sovereign territory, we will defend our allies....

So the Taiwanese Air Force Chief is very confident that the US will keep our promises to be there, and he has every reason to confident in these up-graded F-16s.

For Sino Defense forum members to discredit this trust is extremely foolish and takes your Sino Defense professional credentials back several notches when you presume to know more than these Air Force Chiefs...

they may misspeak on the nomenclature, but they are part of a very well organized strategic picture, as they will be called upon to withstand a numerically superior force until the calvary arrives!

underestimate their commitment at your own peril.

Two things that you say confuse me.

1. That sovereign territory includes both mainland China and your ally in Taiwan, it is only one piece. Please read the constitutions of P.R. China (mainland) and R.O. China (Taiwan). How could you respect and destroy one same thing at the same time? Parallel universe?

2. It seems that you believe (as demonstrated here) the upgraded F-16s have good chance to counter a F-22/F-35 class fighter.

• So either, you must have been advocating the long lasting notion that Eurofighter and F-16 can stand against F-35, am I right? No need for me to dig up F-35 thread?
• Or, you regard J-20 being closer to a F-15/F-16 than F-22/F-35? (I won't argue against that, not my interest). However that would sounds like contradictory to your past opinion regarding J-20 which is that it is in the same class as the laters albeit not equal.

 

[vesicles]

I think I watched a video clip of a Taiwan congressional hearing several years ago, where famous Taiwanese author Li Ao (spelling?) questioned the military chiefs how long they could confidently hold Taiwan in case of a Mainland invasion. The military chief said "about a week". Then Li asked if the military chief agreed with him on his analogy that chasing China in an army race is like chasing a sports car on a bicycle. The military chief nodded in agreement.

Of course, we all know that the Taiwan military chief was being overly optimistic when he estimated that Taiwan could hold for about a week upon a Mainland invasion. The PLA now holds technological superiority over Taiwan in virtually every aspect of the military.

 

[Skywatcher]

I think I watched a video clip of a Taiwan congressional hearing several years ago, where famous Taiwanese author Li Ao (spelling?) questioned the military chiefs how long they could confidently hold Taiwan in case of a Mainland invasion. The military chief said "about a week". Then Li asked if the military chief agreed with him on his analogy that chasing China in an army race is like chasing a sports car on a bicycle. The military chief nodded in agreement.

Of course, we all know that the Taiwan military chief was being overly optimistic when he estimated that Taiwan could hold for about a week upon a Mainland invasion. The PLA now holds technological superiority over Taiwan in virtually every aspect of the military.

A lot of these talk about war involve a PLA amphibious landing. But what if 10, 20 years from now, Beijing finds a way to deliver "inexpensive and persistence kinetic effects on a massive scale (like the firepower of a couple Army groups" to Taiwan without moving a single person across the Straits?

 

[vesicles]

A lot of these talk about war involve a PLA amphibious landing. But what if 10, 20 years from now, Beijing finds a way to deliver "inexpensive and persistence kinetic effects on a massive scale (like the firepower of a couple Army groups" to Taiwan without moving a single person across the Straits?

The Mainland no longer needs to "invade" Taiwan by force. As China becomes stronger and stronger economically and militarily, Taiwanese will slowly shift their alliance toward the Mainland.

Scenarios involving military invasions will be only on paper and in some Sci Fi movies...

 

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