J-15 carrier fighter thread
- Thread starter Jeff Head
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The imported Su-27's and Su-30's, almost all of them, are reaching their life-limits. They bought Su-35's, but they can't beat J-10C's and J-16's. Now the Air Force wants J-16's; the Navy also wants them, not to mention J-20's. Limin still only, working days and nights, produces around 100 WS-10 engines annually. Where are the engines?
The Su-35's with OVT likely will give the J-10C without OVT a run for its money, in fact the Su-35 has "changed the culture", prior to those Su-35's the PLAAF were rather ambivalent about OVT. Thanks to the Su-35's we now see a J-10C with OVT performing at Zhuhai, in fact I wouldn't be surprised at some point to see a J-20 with OVT...
and you're exactly right, with only 100 WS-10s annually, working day and night, you have correctly identified a significant bottleneck in aircraft production...
So how many J-10Cs are currently flying with OVT??? no doubt had not the J-20 dominated the show, the J-10C OVT would have been the star?
vesicles
Colonel
I have to admit that those J-20’s with vapor were mesmerizing. I just can’t stop staring at those photos. However, I believe the J-10C with the OVT had been intended to be THE star of the show from the get go. The J-20’s were plain aircraft, whereas the J-10C was all decked out with the smoke generators. To me, they wanted to show off every move of the J-10C and wanted it to be in the brightest limelight. At Zhuhai, the J-10C owned the show and was the talk of the town.
You can't develop OVT in one day. They had to be working on it for years.
With regards to the engines they will have to build at least more WS-10 like engine cores when the WS-20 comes out for the Y-20.
Since that plane is quad engine, 100 engines would only be enough for 20 planes.
So I think they will ramp up engine production eventually. They need to.
With regards to the engines they will have to build at least more WS-10 like engine cores when the WS-20 comes out for the Y-20.
Since that plane is quad engine, 100 engines would only be enough for 20 planes.
So I think they will ramp up engine production eventually. They need to.
One thing about working in high tech is you don't want to over commit. I believe China is iterating new technology so quickly that all they need is minimal deterrent until they reach a point where they're the leader. Companies go down all the time because they've made some new tech and someone else makes it essentially obsolete.
I suspect they'll have minimal # of planes for these carriers until they can pump out something better than the F35. They won't stop there of course since they have to match US 6th in the 2030's and 40's.
Just saying the one that featured TVC was a J-10B demonstrator. Also the J-10 series still use AL-31 engines, as are the J-15s, leaving all newly produced WS-10s for the J-11/16s (without considering possible application on J-20s, of course).
Mod's please move these posts to the J-10 thread, so there is only one J-10B with OVT?? I'm wondering if possibly the J-15 might eventually adopt two AL-31FN's with OVT, as I already stated, I think those Su-35's have created a climate for cultural change, they show an extremely rapid pitch transition, and outstanding post stall controllability....
asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
3rd carrier is coming together still no more aircraft
Looks like PLAN is trying to copy Royal Navy and run the carrier without aircraft for a few years
But at least RN had helicopters which also PLAN don’t have for carrier
Looks like PLAN is trying to copy Royal Navy and run the carrier without aircraft for a few years
But at least RN had helicopters which also PLAN don’t have for carrier