Derby-ER, Astra etc are all SD-10/Pl-12 class missiles +/-, they're not even in the same league as PL-15s.
J-10 Thread IV
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Indian side has 3x Rafales with Meteors, Pakistani side 3...4x J-10CE and JF-17blk.3s (but the latter aren't combat-ready yet).
Rafales are (somewhat)more capable (and Meteors are longer-ranged), but Chinese fighters and especially missiles will be available in higher/far higher numbers.
But still, it was arguably much worse before for Indian side, because they still haven't moved beyond 1st gen RVV-AE (aim-120b contemporary), against c-series amraam.
Astra is a c-series competitor, after all.
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According to Scramble only 1 Bde of JH-7 still operating - 806th at Yiwu. I think the early J-11A would go before Su-30s.
Jh-7 is a ground attacker. J-10A is different role and unsuited for ground strike. No role overlap. Retiring one or other has no priority. Is early batch SU-27SK retired? That would be sign of retiring J-10A.
I agree, as long as the PLAAF operates still a few J-7 and J-8 and the J-10A can be MLU-ed with new AESA to AG-stnadard maybe even including WS-10B engines it makes no sense at all to retire them.
The issue of the JH-7/7A is IMO totally independent from the J-10A since the J-16 is the typical success to the JH-7A.
Arent all non-recon j8 retired by now?
Also, how many non-training units even use j7 anymore? I would think their numbers dropped to perhaps just a few brigades. No?
the interesting thing is that the J-10 appears with the colors of North Korea, but even more interesting is that on August 23, 2017 a photo of Kim Jong Un was disclosed in front of a painting which, if looked at carefully, seems to show a J -10.
who knows if......