... these are not for sale too!
J-10 Thread IV
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... these are not for sale too!
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In addition to the 16 MIG-29M aircraft obtained in recent years, there are 32 old used MIG-29A aircraft received by Algeria many years ago, which are supposed to be replaced. Algeria has 72 SU-30MKA aircraft, which remain heavy and not all of them, and Algeria needs light combat aircraft as well.
There is no real confirmation that Algeria has received the SU-34M
By contracting for the SU-57, the Russians themselves will raise the production line’s capabilities to 12 aircraft annually in 2024.
China, on the other hand, the J-20 production line has reached 120 aircraft annually, and exporting limited numbers of them to some countries is not a problem, especially since the Chinese Air Force now has 250 J-20 aircraft in service, and the orders include 40 aircraft for Saudi Arabia, 28 for Algeria, and perhaps Egypt and Pakistan. China refuses to export. Fighters are also difficult to enter the global arms sales market
It is the same story as the Y-20 plane. Egypt had previously ordered 20 planes that China announced were not ready, especially since the local WS-20 engine was not used. Russian engine restrictions prevent China from exporting planes with Russian engines in order to eliminate competition from Russian sales.
Restrictions on the export of killers encourage countries to create local programs whose requirements are no longer limited or simple technologies. Rather, any country requires the latest technologies as long as it pays no.
J-16 not for sale as in by China or agreement with Russia? I don't see why China would refuse selling downgraded J-16 if not for agreement with Russia.
I don't think J-20 is for sale for foreseeable future. FC-31 on other hand might see export. That is years down the line though.
Some calm is required, as it is not a matter of destroying the J-10 issue
To continue the discussion
Regarding China making the J-20 plane available for export, there is a point that must be clarified. Historically, China exported to Egypt its most important plane, such as the H-6 in 1976 and the J-7 plane, while China later offered the J-8 plane. China did not obtain licenses to produce the SU-27 plane until The nineties
China's facilitation of exporting its products is the reason for its expansion. When China exported drones, it took advantage of the opportunity to prevent America from exporting them.
Also, China produced the J-20B version, and therefore it can export older versions such as the J-20A. The reason why countries focus on manufacturing national fighters is that countries use fighters as a product with high sensitivity and a pressure tool.
Chinese production lines have also increased to 120 aircraft annually, and some Western sources said that they are already on display to some countries such as the Emirates, Saudi Arabia and Algeria, but rather to prove that China is a major supplier of weapons, and that the Chinese’s entry into the place of the United States of America is not free, but rather because they offer what the Americans reject, so this is the basic point.
One of the obstacles to Chinese fighter exports in recent years is Russian engines, as Russian restrictions prevent competition from them
Egypt did not accept China's offers to produce the J-10A/B aircraft because they were not suitable for Egyptian requirements. The same thing happened with Egypt's rejection of the L-15 aircraft in the past due to bad experience with the K-8E aircraft, for which Egypt embarked on a development program and replaced its components with European components to get rid of all its problems. And its drawbacks even after Egypt obtained 120-160 of them
The same applies to the Type-54A ships, which Egypt did not accept due to their technical condition, and China’s offers in the field of radar did not match the level of threats facing Egypt.
That is, when a weapon supplier refuses to supply, another supplier is turned to. Egypt has rejected American offers since the end of 2013 for American fighters due to the armament restrictions that Egypt did not accept. Egypt was the one who opened the door to exporting the RAFALE plane. No country was convinced to buy it until after Egypt contracted for it. Egypt is the gateway to armaments for countries. The Middle East and the Gulf: China did not export weapons to any Gulf country until after Chinese weapons entered the Egyptian army, air force, and navy, and after the Gulf people took the opinion of the Egyptian military trainers in the eighties and nineties, why did the South Koreans offer Egypt not only to buy non-Korean weapons, but to be their manufacturing center for export to African countries and the East? The Middle East and the Gulf, and the same goes for the Turks. Why are they seeking to produce their weapons in Egypt for export to African and Arab countries? Because Egypt is the gateway to Africa and the Middle East for those who want to sell weapons. They are offering to participate in the KAAN plane, but Egypt is not convinced that it is a project that will be completed at all.
Oh come on STOP this BS!
First you are wrong with the designations, second no reliable source says production rate is already 120+ and even more so, there is no offer of the J-20 to any other country especially not the Emirates, Saudi Arabia and Algeria.
Chinese would never sell J-20 just like Americans would never sell F-22( have some common sense, guys).
about J-16 Literally no airshows that cater to customers had J-16 displayed as an export derivative.
Y-20BE (with the high-bypass indigenous turbofan WS-20), on the other hand, is available for export.
about J-16 Literally no airshows that cater to customers had J-16 displayed as an export derivative.
Y-20BE (with the high-bypass indigenous turbofan WS-20), on the other hand, is available for export.