J-10 Thread IV

[asif iqbal]

Ok so J10A/S we have 07 batches

That's equipping 10 x PLAAF regiments and 1 x PLAN regiments

We have FTTC and and demonstration team

If we standard and take the assumption of 28 x J10A per PLAAF regiment and 24 x J10A for PLAN i get a figure of around 330+ x J10A/S

Now to J10B

01 batch so far with 53 units

Get a number for all variants almost close to 400 units because some PLAAF regiments are larger than standard 28 fighters

Now if we look at J11B


We have 9 x Regiments with J11B flying with PLAAF

3 x PLAN regiments

Total in excess of 300 fighters but not as much as J10 units

So J10A is in larger numbers than J11B

This also means more than 500 x WS10 engine are flying operationally on J11B alone (01 batch was Russian)

 

[Jeff Head]

If we standard and take the assumption of 28 x J10A per PLAAF regiment and 24 x J10A for PLAN i get a figure of around 330+ x J10A/S

Now to J10B. Get a number for all variants almost close to 400 units because some PLAAF regiments are larger than standard 28 fighters

Now if we look at J11B We have 9 x Regiments with J11B flying with PLAAF + 3 x PLAN regiments

Total in excess of 300 fighters but not as much as J10 units

Wow.

About 400 J-10s active.
About 388 J-11Bs active.

Add the Su-30s, the J-15s, the J-16s, and the J-11s, the JH-7As, etc.

It seems clear that the PRC has a very strong force of over 1,000 very modern 4th and 4+ generation combat aircraft in service.

A huge step towards modernizing their entire air forces. Think of how quickly in reality they have made this transformation.

 

[SinoSoldier]

I do expect the number of Flanker derivatives and J-10s to gradually decrease as the PLAAF transitions towards the more expensive (but more capable) J-11Ds and J-10Cs.

 

[Blitzo]

I do expect the number of Flanker derivatives and J-10s to gradually decrease as the PLAAF transitions towards the more expensive (but more capable) J-11Ds and J-10Cs.

J-11Ds are flanker derivatives and J-10Cs are a J-10 variant...

 

[antiterror13]

PLAAF may retire the original SU-27SK (kits from Russia), my guess would be in early 2020

 

[SinoSoldier]

J-11Ds are flanker derivatives and J-10Cs are a J-10 variant...

Obviously, the post was referring to older J-11/10 offshoots (i.e. Su-27SK/UBK/J-11A and J-10A).

 

[Blitzo]

Obviously, the post was referring to older J-11/10 offshoots (i.e. Su-27SK/UBK/J-11A and J-10A).

That makes more sense, though the original post didn't quite specify.

I think the original Su-27s and J-11As would be replaced soon but the first J-10As should be young enough to have another decade or two of service still in them

 

[manqiangrexue]

That makes more sense, though the original post didn't quite specify.

I think the original Su-27s and J-11As would be replaced soon but the first J-10As should be young enough to have another decade or two of service still in them

That's a bit of a debacle, in my opinion, that the J-10As have so much life left, yet their avionics are basically obsolete. It's gonna be one heck of an MLU to get them up to speed...

 

[antiterror13]

That's a bit of a debacle, in my opinion, that the J-10As have so much life left, yet their avionics are basically obsolete. It's gonna be one heck of an MLU to get them up to speed...

obsolete? ... against who ? against the best of the best? of course, no doubt

J-10A is just fine against most fighters in the region, better than most actually. Taiwan still operating F-5 and even their F-16A/B and Mirage 2000 are inferior to J-10A. Japan still operating F-4 and so on so on

 

[Blitzo]

That's a bit of a debacle, in my opinion, that the J-10As have so much life left, yet their avionics are basically obsolete. It's gonna be one heck of an MLU to get them up to speed...

J-10As are still quite capable against many threats that China will be facing for the next decade at least, and any MLU could simply involve refitting them with a new AESA, new EW and datalinks, and possibly a new cockpit. Mostly internal avionics, not dissimilar to various F-16 upgrade programs that a number of nations are doing.

Well worth it for China imo.