J-10 Thread IV

[Hendrik_2000]

According to a J-11A driver participating in the PLAAF "Golden Helmets" competition, the J-10A is better in BVR and equivalent in WVR.
From Henri K blog

 

[Deino]

The J-10D-fan art again ...

 

[manqiangrexue]

According to a J-11A driver participating in the PLAAF "Golden Helmets" competition, the J-10A is better in BVR and equivalent in WVR.
From Henri K blog

You sure it's not the other way around? I'd think that given their similar level of avionics but with the Flanker's greater size and larger radar that in BVR, the J-10A could at best be equal but in WVR, J-10A may be superior due to the smaller size and nimble delta canard design.

 

[jobjed]

You sure it's not the other way around? I'd think that given their similar level of avionics but with the Flanker's greater size and larger radar that in BVR, the J-10A could at best be equal but in WVR, J-10A may be superior due to the smaller size and nimble delta canard design.

For J-11B, possibly, but for J-11As, the low-tech Soviet radar would render it horribly crippled going up against the modern radars of the J-10A.

 

[Engineer]

You sure it's not the other way around? I'd think that given their similar level of avionics but with the Flanker's greater size and larger radar that in BVR, the J-10A could at best be equal but in WVR, J-10A may be superior due to the smaller size and nimble delta canard design.

J-11A only has twist cassegrain radar and Soviet-era's avionics, where as J-10A has slotted array radar and newer avionics.

 

[manqiangrexue]

J-11A only has twist cassegrain radar and Soviet-era's avionics, where as J-10A has slotted array radar and newer avionics.

For J-11B, possibly, but for J-11As, the low-tech Soviet radar would render it horribly crippled going up against the modern radars of the J-10A.

Wow!! I didn't know that they never bothered to upgrade J-11A! I assumed that they would have done some sort of upgrade to bring the tech at least on par with J-10A. Do these frames have enough life left for an upgrade to be worth it? Could they bring them up directly to J-10C/J-11D standard?

 

[Hyperwarp]

Wow!! I didn't know that they never bothered to upgrade J-11A! I assumed that they would have done some sort of upgrade to bring the tech at least on par with J-10A. Do these frames have enough life left for an upgrade to be worth it? Could they bring them up directly to J-10C/J-11D standard?

I think the Russians offered J-11/11A N001VEP+Pero upgrade but PLAAF instead got Belorussian help and got R-77 compatibility with existing N001. That probably saved them a lot of money. Remember The original J-11 deal was for locally built Su-27SK which never had R-77 compatibility.

I don't see any future upgrade for the J-11/11A. Even worse are the older Su-27SK.

 

[FORBIN]

I think the Russians offered J-11/11A N001VEP+Pero upgrade but PLAAF instead got Belorussian help and got R-77 compatibility with existing N001. That probably saved them a lot of money. Remember The original J-11 deal was for locally built Su-27SK which never had R-77 compatibility.

I don't see any future upgrade for the J-11/11A. Even worse are the older Su-27SK.

Su-27SM3 and Su-30M2 have this radar.

 

[Hyperwarp]

Su-27SM3 and Su-30M2 have this radar.

So does the Su-30MK2 in the PLAN.

 

[FORBIN]

So does the Su-30MK2 in the PLAN.

Yes i have check hehe but for quibble i see N001VE ( Huitong ) not N001VEP i have 150 km range for 3m2 target

I don' t have for new PESA/J-10B designation ? and AESA/J-10C designation ?

I post this old for provide an idea