J-10 Thread III (Closed to posting)

[dingyibvs]

I was just sifting through some old pics of the J-10B and noticed something. J-10A and most J-10B prototypes seem to have engine nozzles looking like this:

That is, a ring of blueish metal followed by brownish colored nacelles. However, on this particular J-10B which is painted gray, the engine nozzles look to have a ring of brownish metal followed by blueish colored nacelles:

Anybody know why that is? Could the gray, unnumbered J-10B be using the WS-10A?

 

[siegecrossbow]

I was just sifting through some old pics of the J-10B and noticed something. J-10A and most J-10B prototypes seem to have engine nozzles looking like this:

That is, a ring of blueish metal followed by brownish colored nacelles. However, on this particular J-10B which is painted gray, the engine nozzles look to have a ring of brownish metal followed by blueish colored nacelles:

Anybody know why that is? Could the gray, unnumbered J-10B be using the WS-10A?

No. That's just Al-31. No variant of J-10 currently employs the WS-10A.

 

[Centrist]

I was just sifting through some old pics of the J-10B and noticed something. J-10A and most J-10B prototypes seem to have engine nozzles looking like this:

That is, a ring of blueish metal followed by brownish colored nacelles. However, on this particular J-10B which is painted gray, the engine nozzles look to have a ring of brownish metal followed by blueish colored nacelles:

Anybody know why that is? Could the gray, unnumbered J-10B be using the WS-10A?

I don't think that it is WS-10a, but you have a point. The difference in the color is probably due to lighting differences, IMO. But with Chinese engines, just about anything can be true.

 

[dingyibvs]

No. That's just Al-31. No variant of J-10 currently employs the WS-10A.

So how do you explain the color differences? I have NEVER seen a J-10 with anything except a blueish rim on the part immediately forward of the nacelles.

 

[Centrist]

I see what you mean, I made a photoshop comparison but I cannot for the life of me figure out how to post it. I cannot delete the old photos that I have posted.

Edit: I put my photo on Flickr.

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The photo on the left is a newer photo of the J-10B, so is the photo on the right, but I superimposed another image of the engine nozzle from an older photo of the J-10B.

Also, it seems that all of the new photos of the J-10B have this different nozzle, either because the lighting was the same for the last batch, or because there is something different about the engine itself.

 

[Martian]

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I see what you mean, I made a photoshop comparison but I cannot for the life of me figure out how to post it. I cannot delete the old photos that I have posted.

Edit: I put my photo on Flickr.

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The photo on the left is a newer photo of the J-10B, so is the photo on the right, but I superimposed another image of the engine nozzle from an older photo of the J-10B.

Also, it seems that all of the new photos of the J-10B have this different nozzle, either because the lighting was the same for the last batch, or because there is something different about the engine itself.

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[duskylim]

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I have a feeling that what is keeping the J-10B from being mass-produced is indeed the engine issue. Until the locally-made and certified indigenous engine is available in quantity Chengdu and the PLAAF are holding back on production of the B model.

The fact that they are equipping the J-11B/BS?/BH? with the domestic engine means the PLAAF is already confident and satisfied with its performance in a twin-engine installation.

Clearly some reliability issues must be resolved before the modified version can be installed into the single-engined J-10B.

This also seems to be what is keeping production of the J-10A low, as the PLAAF doesn't really want the older model anymore and is making CAC keep to a low-rate production of the A until the B model can be mass-produced.

Only in cases where airframe and maintainability issues compel the PLAAF to replace the aircraft are the J-10A's being inducted into the units.

This would mean that the PLAAF actually wants the J-10B to be the mass-produced and most numerous J-10 model.

 

[bd popeye]

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Found this J-10 video..has a quick Top Gun clip at about 1:10 to 1:13..
[video=youtube;5NVOXUWGEuo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NVOXUWGEuo&feature=player_embedded#[/video]

 

[vesicles]

Re: Four easy steps to posting a picture

Found this J-10 video..has a quick Top Gun clip at about 1:10 to 1:13..
[video=youtube;5NVOXUWGEuo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NVOXUWGEuo&feature=player_embedded#[/video]

At 1:10 when the plane fires the missile, it's definitely a J-10, but the plane getting blown to pieces definitely looks like one of the "enemy" planes in Top Gun (The fictional Mig. 28 in the movie?).

Looking at the plane firing a missile, I noticed how much smoke the missile is generating. Is this normal to have smoke this thick? I mean it's almost completely blocking the plane. I think the missiles fired by F-15/16/18's have much thinner smoke...

 

[SteelBird]

Looking the pilots when being interviewed. Apparently, they are reading a script rather than speaking their personal view point. Maybe this is just a special Chinese characteristic.