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siegecrossbow

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According to CCTV the Second Division achieved a 1:18 kill ratio in the latest mock air to air battle.

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According to CCTV the Second Division achieved a 1:18 kill ratio in the latest mock air to air battle.

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Interesting, but for those who's Chinese reading skills are weak, care to summarize? Who were they flying against? Were they 'Red' or 'Blue'? Also my information on the 2nd Fighter Division might be a little rusty, what aircraft were they using?
 

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Blue team are equipped with Su-30MKK's, J-10A's and J-7E's, according to a report of China Defense Blog I've read recently:
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So Blue Su-30MKK's would be in bomber/attack role, and trying to penetrate air defence, and Red team would have to stop them in such scenario, and protect some object or area.
 

kwaigonegin

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I wonder if the US/NATO will ever invite PLAAF to exercises like Red Flag etc. Only then will we truly know the capabilities and competencies of the PLAAF in real world scenerios.
 

siegecrossbow

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Interesting, but for those who's Chinese reading skills are weak, care to summarize? Who were they flying against? Were they 'Red' or 'Blue'? Also my information on the 2nd Fighter Division might be a little rusty, what aircraft were they using?

I think the Second Division is on the "Red Team" (good guys) this time and they were matched up against the 3rd and 30th air division. CCTV showed footages of J-11s and J-8s during the broadcast but since the channel is notorious for posting wrong pictures of aircrafts, no one is sure.

p.s. Just a little update the kill ratio wasn't 1:18. It was 1:13. The J-10s shot down 18 out of 18 DRONES during the exercise. Sorry for the mixup.
 

siegecrossbow

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I wonder if the US/NATO will ever invite PLAAF to exercises like Red Flag etc. Only then will we truly know the capabilities and competencies of the PLAAF in real world scenerios.

According to the latest rumors on Feiyang the exercises with Turkey did occur. However the training didn't involve air to air mock-combat but appears to be ground oriented. I speculate that the old Su-27s were used to escort the F-4s for ground attack. Apparently there has been a renewed emphasis on ground attack capabilities after the exercise. Perhaps the PLAAF is trying to shorten the gap with NATO level training.
 

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I think the Second Division is on the "Red Team" (good guys) this time and they were matched up against the 3rd and 30th air division. CCTV showed footages of J-11s and J-8s during the broadcast but since the channel is notorious for posting wrong pictures of aircrafts, no one is sure.

p.s. Just a little update the kill ratio wasn't 1:18. It was 1:13. The J-10s shot down 18 out of 18 DRONES during the exercise. Sorry for the mixup.

Err I think you mean 13:1 -- as in they killed thirteen enemy aircraft for one of their own? If it was the other way round then I'd be very surprised and nervous.
 

siegecrossbow

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Err I think you mean 13:1 -- as in they killed thirteen enemy aircraft for one of their own? If it was the other way round then I'd be very surprised and nervous.

Yeah that's what I meant. They lost one plane in exchange of 13 others.
 

MwRYum

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Another interesting part of the news is that they claimed the decision making portion has been released to the pilot, instead of relying on the ground control like in the past.
Guess that's another evidence that China is moving away from the old Soviet doctrine.
 
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