J-10 Thread III (Closed to posting)

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plawolf

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If the J10B is significantly more expensive than the J10A, the vast majority of the cost difference will be down to the better AESA radar and avionics. But if the PLAAF wants their J10As to stay competitive in the coming decades, they would need to upgrade and replace the J10A's radars and avionics at some point.

However much the J10B costs more than the J10A, I dare say it is going to be less that what it would cost to build a J10A, and then later strip out and replace its radar and most of its avionics.

Since CAC is still pumping out new J10As at a steady clip, it makes sense for them to switch production to the J10B ASAP to save on them having to upgrade them later.

I see the scale of the work between the J10A and J10B as similar to that of the F18C/D Vs F18E/F. They both share the same layout and main aerodynamics of their predecessors, but there is so much work and the new planes are so different compared to the originals that they might as well be brand new clean sheet designs.

5th gens are great and all, but they still cannot be at two places at the same time, and the J10A/B will be one of the workhorses of the PLAAF for may years to come.
 

Franklin

Captain
To the people here that have gone stealth gaga needs to understand that the J-31 probably will never see service as that plane is not being backed by the PLAAF. The JH-7B probably don't exist and the J-20 is perhabs a decade away from entering service. So in the meantime the J-10B and the J-16 will be the mainstay for the PLAAF for the coming decade.

On the question on rather or not the J-10B has been delayed is impossible to answer since neither CAC nor the PLAAF have given a time frame to when this plane is suppose to enter serial production and service. And the fact that it has taken so long for the J-10B to come out tells you how significant the differences between the two planes are. And remember that today the CAC and China's aviation industry as a whole have capabilities and resources at its disposal that was unheard of and unimaginable in the 1980's and 90's when the J-10A was developed.
 
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Skywatcher

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To try to be in self denial and say J-10B is a new aircraft is complete shocking. J-10A is a complete new project that China skip a generation to produced. J-10B is essentially a modification to J-10A , just like how FC-1 Pt03 to Pt04 and it took addtional less than 2 years to do it.

There is no doubt J-10B is having a major delay. But I simply do not care about J-10B, its loses it glamorous and its not important anymore. If you all wants to continue to be in denial everything is perfect and as schedule for J-10B , so be it.

People don't cancel fighter programs because they "loses it glamorous". This isn't a D&D game where your Level 10 scoundrel is trying to roll a 6 to charm the outer dungeon guards.
 

Lion

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People don't cancel fighter programs because they "loses it glamorous". This isn't a D&D game where your Level 10 scoundrel is trying to roll a 6 to charm the outer dungeon guards.

We never say the program is cancel. We only claim its program is delay or number intended to induct might reduced and its importance and priority has drop down the ranking. Don't twist our words and try to make you look smart. Do you have reading problem?
 
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siegecrossbow

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I think the wait-up is for the single-engine version of Taihang to stabilize. We'll see a batch of the J-10B (Al-31 powered) entering service at the end of the year, most likely.
 

jobjed

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We never say the program is cancel. We only claim its program is delay or number intended to induct might reduced and its importance and priority has drop down the ranking. Don't twist our words and try to make you look smart. Do you have reading problem?

Who's "we"?
 

MiG-29

Banned Idiot
[video=youtube;-cmG8XK5vU0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cmG8XK5vU0[/video]
Chinese Top Gun with J-10s and english subtitles?
 

siegecrossbow

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[video=youtube;-cmG8XK5vU0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cmG8XK5vU0[/video]
Chinese Top Gun with J-10s and english subtitles?

Never mention that monstrous ripoff here ever again... Had the misfortune of sitting through it on youku.
 
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