J-10 Thread III (Closed to posting)

[ahadicow]

problem with previous generation MFI is that display panel is very small,smaller than your average lap top computer. that's why F-35 MFI decided to opt for large single pieces screen.
wonder why J-10 do not uses similiar approach.

When you compare the human interface between a 3rd and 4th gen fighter jet, you are bound to notice some differences.

 

[antiterror13]

problem with previous generation MFI is that display panel is very small,smaller than your average lap top computer. that's why F-35 MFI decided to opt for large single pieces screen.
wonder why J-10 do not uses similiar approach.

J-10B will have a single large screen, also J-20, and J-31

 

[siegecrossbow]

Interesting article from CJDBY's new news section: J-10Bs will soon enter mass production phase and enter service with PLAAF.

超大网友消息，1031号歼-10B型战斗机今日再次飞离西南某飞机制造厂，前往西北某地进行试飞工作，这表明歼-10B型战斗机的相关试验进入了一个新的阶段。超级大本营军事网获得的相关消息表明，歼-10B型战斗机有望于近期实现批量生产，进入中国空军服役。

　　歼-10B是歼-10战斗机的一个改型，最大的改进便是试用了DSI进气道，该机于2008年12月首飞，互联网披露的相关图片显示，除了其1035号机发动机为国产“太行”发动机外，其他几架原型机均使用了俄制AL-31发动机。歼-10B从首飞至今已有近5年，其是否能进入中国空军服役一度成为媒体及军事爱好者的关注热点。

　　1031号歼-10B此前已经进行了大量的飞行试验，本次返厂后，该机进期道下方，起落舱盖，腹鳍都进行了更换，鸭翼前方增加了一处凸起，表明其根据飞行试验的结果做了最新的改进。

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[adeptitus]

problem with previous generation MFI is that display panel is very small,smaller than your average lap top computer. that's why F-35 MFI decided to opt for large single pieces screen.
wonder why J-10 do not uses similiar approach.

The same question could be asked for a number of other design decisions, but as one writer stated, the Chinese defense industry appears to be better disciplined in keeping to project scope. Incremental improvements are added with later versions of the product.

The J-10A does not have F-35 style advanced cockpit system, because the designers stuck to a proven design and delivered -- hopefully one-time, on-target, and on-budget. If they had been tempted to allow scope creep, the plane would've probably been delayed by years while they worked to fix all the bugs.

The J-10 was originally ordered as a response to the USSR's new MiG-29 and Su-27 aircraft. Times have changed and, ironically the J-10 today is still China's response to the MiG-29 -- by producing the J-10, China does not need to purchase MiG-29's from Russia, other than the power plant. Had the J-10 program failed or delayed by decades, then the PLAAF might have had to import MiG-29's or buy more Su-27's.

 

[Franklin]

Here are some nice cockpit shots.

I always thought that the Chengdu J-10 would have better avionics then the JF-17 Thunder or at least equally good avionics. But based on these pics it would seem that the JF-17 Thunder has better avionics than the Chengdu J-10.

As far as for the J-10B cockpit i wonder if it has a voice command system like the Rafale and the Eurofighter Typhoon.

 

[Munir]

Both planes have input from each other but it is sometimes added much later to the other. You see now lots of a2g weapons being tested and operational on JF17. You can expect them on J10B/FC20. On the other hand the radar and BVR was tested on J10A and then just absorbed on JF17. The cockpit will be probably a newer and better version for both JF17b2 and FC20. You all did see J20 pictures so let us wait and see. I think the big bang from J6, J7 style cockpit to JF17 or even better was a big step which is taken now in smaller steps. The Pakistani had been used to F16A cockpit and had done Mirage upgrades to MFD's. So JF17 was more doable.

 

[AssassinsMace]

Nice shot of a take-off at night.



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[Hyperwarp]

Just saw this at CDF :

 

[Totoro]

they're STILL testing stuff, almost 4,5 years after first flight? What on earth is holding up this project?

 

[Deino]

Brrrr, calm down please ! ... first of all we should know, when these images were taken !