I don't know how you rank these planes that are now in development. But the J-31 is not backed by the government or PLA and it is questionable if it even will ever enter service. There is no proof so far that the JH-7B even exist. That leaves the J-20, J-16 and J-15 in competition with the J-10B. The J-15 will only be produced in small numbers because China has only got 1 carrier and it will take perhabs another decade before China can field a second one. The J-20 is still years away from being operational, that means that in the near future the improvement of China's air power will come from the J-16 and the J-10B. The J-10B was important enough for the top PLA brass to attend its maiden flight in december of 2008. It's true that the numerous development of new fighters has taken attention and resources away from the J-10B project but its still a very important program for the PLAAF.
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I don't know how you rank these planes that are now in development. But the J-31 is not backed by the government or PLA and it is questionable if it even will ever enter service. There is no proof so far that the JH-7B even exist. That leaves the J-20, J-16 and J-15 in competition with the J-10B. The J-15 will only be produced in small numbers because China has only got 1 carrier and it will take perhabs another decade before China can field a second one. The J-20 is still years away from being operational, that means that in the near future the improvement of China's air power will come from the J-16 and the J-10B. The J-10B was important enough for the top PLA brass to attend its maiden flight in december of 2008. It's true that the numerous development of new fighters has taken attention and resources away from the J-10B project but its still a very important program for the PLAAF.
Nope ... the question is simply what's the real one and which one is psed !???
I have that strange feeling - esp. since we've seen similar images of that J-10B once without a number and with or without the PLAAF-symbol - that both 1031 & 1038 are psed !
IMO these images are from the same moment (a few seconds later) and do indeed show the same aircraft but without any symbol or number.
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Maggern
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Nope ... the question is simply what's the real one and which one is psed !???
I have that strange feeling - esp. since we've seen similar images of that J-10B once without a number and with or without the PLAAF-symbol - that both 1031 & 1038 are psed !
IMO these images are from the same moment (a few seconds later) and do indeed show the same aircraft but without any symbol or number.
Deino
Easiest ps is to remove markings that should be there..
Agreed ... so what do you think !?
At least I hope - and since Huitong has added 1038 to his site - that since it fits nicely to my theory that all prototypes (updated to a common serial standard) + pre-serials will equip one test-regiment (or at least a squadron or so) comprising about 8 aircraft !
Deino
I was a bit playing around with that image showing one time 1031 or 1038 .... and I think it seems as if the 1031 is the correct one with the 8 in 1038 a bit off !
At least in the other images 1038 seems correct leading to my conclusion that indeed both aircraft are real and renumbered but the image or series of images of that J-10B + the J-20 are only 1031.
What do You think ?
Deino
At least in the other images 1038 seems correct leading to my conclusion that indeed both aircraft are real and renumbered but the image or series of images of that J-10B + the J-20 are only 1031.
What do You think ?
Deino
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asif iqbal
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Nope ... the question is simply what's the real one and which one is psed !???
I have that strange feeling - esp. since we've seen similar images of that J-10B once without a number and with or without the PLAAF-symbol - that both 1031 & 1038 are psed !
IMO these images are from the same moment (a few seconds later) and do indeed show the same aircraft but without any symbol or number.
Deino
Easy, which one surfaced first?
It is considered common practice for amateur photographers to block the number on individual aircraft after it enters service. They usually use ugly paint-brushes from paint or black boxes to blank them out. Since the number of J-10Bs is very limited I doubt that the individual Photoshopping the number had that in mind.
AssassinsMace
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Here are some nice cockpit shots.
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