J-10 Thread III (Closed to posting)

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terrorhunter

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judging by the shape of the tail i think they're J-10a. i counted about 11 of them. 2 in each hanger in the foreground and 1 in the back. wonder which unit they're going to
 

terrorhunter

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I don't think there is enough resolution to distinguish tail shape.

when you zoom in, judging from the planes shown with the arrow on the extreme right and the 3rd arrow from the right you can clearly see that the top of the tail is flat, not angled like the one on the j-10b
 

cloyce

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when you zoom in, judging from the planes shown with the arrow on the extreme right and the 3rd arrow from the right you can clearly see that the top of the tail is flat, not angled like the one on the j-10b

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The paintless model is black on the top of the tail.
So, you won't see it anyway if the light condition is not good.

Why are the J-10As still yellow? Do they apply the paint works after the plane take to the air?

I think, all the planes are yellow before they got painted
 

Pointblank

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I think, all the planes are yellow before they got painted

It's the specific formulation of zinc chromate primer. Zinc-chromate primer is an anti-corrosion coating for aluminum alloy parts for aircraft.

Raw zinc chromate primer is clear and would also give a semi-translucent coating, not very opaque like a pigmented paint or lacquer. Adding a pigment to primer is needed because in aviation, aircraft factory specifications require for just one protective coat of primer, so a proper and complete coating is required.

If another layer of zinc chromate primer is required, each layer needs to be a different colour. Usually, tinting is added to the primer, and manufacturers usually have free reign as to what tinting they want to use.

Usually, this primer is applied after a skydrol resistant finish, which on Boeing aircraft, it is a deep green:
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Below: zinc-chromate primer on the horizontal stabilizer for a Vultee Vengeance:
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Zinc-chromate primer with Lamp Black paste inside a A-20 bomber. Adding Lamp Black paste to the formulation would increase UV protection (as zinc-chromate is very sensitive to photolitic reactions) and increase durability in high wear areas. Adding Lamp Black paste would turn the primer anywhere from apple greens to medium olive green.:
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duskylim

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Why are the J-10As still yellow? Do they apply the paint works after the plane take to the air?

I believe that all newly-manufactured Chinese aircraft (not just J-10's) are first extensively flight-tested with only a protective coat of primer, BEFORE they are accepted into the PLAAF.

This way it is easy to remove all the access panels and replace parts, adjust or service the aircraft as needed.

After the production aircraft passes test and inspection, then it will be painted in the colors of the particular PLAAF unit that operates it.

Then there will be the usual acceptance/turnover ceremonies.
 

plawolf

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Looks more like the J11BS based on the positioning of the second canopy support in relation to the weapons officer's controls. There also appears to be a picture showing an IRST in the centre of the windscreen, while the J10B's is offset to the side.
 
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