Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

If the big arab countries just do some outraged statements, maybe with some sanctions and nothing else, it open the door to just level GAZA and anything that Israel want levelled.

Arab countries and Iran would then have a bunch of problems in their hands home to tame. Don't know if it's the result that Israel government try to reach.

If they act against Israel and retaliate, I clearly don't want to see the result and how far it could go.

It's clearly reaching the boiling points....

If these muslim countries are serious, they would sever diplomatic relations with Israel.

H2O said:

If these muslim countries are serious, they would sever diplomatic relations with Israel.

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If they do they could not organize any help corridors and shipments...would probably sensor all opportunities to assess the situation. It would be a double edged move. It would even help Israel to do anything they please in GAZA.

it seems like politically the biggest victim may turn out to be jordanian monarch...it be insane if this hospital strike ends up changing the political landscape in the ME. israel definitely overplayed its hands here.

I have been thinking a lot about Hamas and Hezbolah trainings. I underestimated them, and I really have no reason to. Hamas in particular have people trained for combat since kid. That is equivalent of a Spartan education.


The median age is below 18. Most people die before hitting adults. Their life is so harsh it is like Warhammer 40k. They have no illusion of living at ease, so they dedicate their entire life into combat.

Is there any reason people this dedicated be bad at fighting?

Note: they are using dji drones 5 years ago. Good visions for which way new combat is headed.

TK3600 said:

I have been thinking a lot about Hamas and Hezbolah trainings. I underestimated them, and I really have no reason to. Hamas in particular have people trained for combat since kid. That is equivalent of a Spartan education.

The median age is below 18. Most people die before hitting adults. Their life is so harsh it is like Warhammer 40k. They have no illusion of living at ease, so they dedicate their entire life into combat.

Is there any reason people this dedicated be bad at fighting?

Note: they are using dji drones 5 years ago. Good visions for which way new combat is headed.

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The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI; officially the Middle East Media and Research Institute) is a nonprofit press monitoring and analysis organization co-founded by former Israeli military intelligence officer Yigal Carmon and Israeli-American political scientist Meyrav Wurmser.

MixedReality said:

Yes there are trigger events which change the course of history. Ukraine war is one. This Israel-Palestine war is another. The biggest loser might be the American empire. Ukraine war pushed Russia towards China. Israel-Palestine war might push the Muslim world towards China.

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The muslim world is militarily occupied by the USA and Israel.

A real rapprochement with China would only be possible with China supplying needed weapons to the resistance in the same way that the USA supplies Ukraine openly and without fear of retaliation.

Otherwise, if Muslim countries only release angry statements in the press without any action against Israel, the USA will be even more emboldened to do whatever it wants and if any country threatens its interests it will easily be invaded without any retaliation.

Arab countries, like Europeans and Jordanian monarchy, will be only vassals...

While most of the outrage does form along religious/tribal/historical lines, the truth is at the end of the day economics win. It's human nature. The powerful and ruling billionaire Arabs would likely put thier wealth first over any loyalty or adherence to their religious or tribal associations.

As such I believe they won't muddle the waters too much. ME instability would not bode well for them either economically or holding on to political power.

While they may publicly side with or mollify the overarching Palestinian cause, in the boardrooms within the seat of power and wealth they would be secretly supporting Western interests because their wealth and political mobility are directly tied to it.

Stierlitz said:

⚡️#BREAKING Palestinian Health: At least 200 killed as a result of a jewish terror airstrike at Al-Baptisti Hospital in Gaza.

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So extremely sad. I can't believe people are buying into the Israeli FUD that it might've been a Hamas misfire. The number of coincidences that need to align for that to happen is insane. Are you telling me a Hamas missile just happened to misfire and land on one of the most crucial buildings in Gaza? On top of that when Hamas missiles do land on their target - they are shown to destroy small walk-up 2 to 3 story buildings, not a larger infrastructure like hospitals.

yungho said:

So extremely sad. I can't believe people are buying into the Israeli FUD that it might've been a Hamas misfire. The number of coincidences that need to align for that to happen is insane. Are you telling me a Hamas missile just happened to misfire and land on one of the most crucial buildings in Gaza? On top of that when Hamas missiles do land on their target - they are shown to destroy small walk-up 2 to 3 story buildings, not a larger infrastructure like hospitals.

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LMFAO Hamas Air Force aka DJI drones could drop bombs big enough to knock down a hospital now?