Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

drowingfish

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israel always does this, in 2006 they did this in lebanon as well, bombed some apartment killed a bunch of kids. and that was the turning point for western support for their actions.

this one is so crazy though, how do you not at least check the hospital with ISR before you bomb it? makes me wonder if they did this on purpose because they needed "a way out" of committing to a ground invasion.
 

sheogorath

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this one is so crazy though, how do you not at least check the hospital with ISR before you bomb it? makes me wonder if they did this on purpose because they needed "a way out" of committing to a ground invasion.

They have been threatening hospitals for a while now, with "warnings" to evacuate and since now they have the western bloodlust to back them, doesn't seem far fetched they did on purpose.
 

Stierlitz

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Third front: protests in Jordan may be much worse for Israel than Hezbollah shelling

After the attack on a hospital in Gaza, which led to huge casualties, thousands of demonstrators poured into the squares of Arab cities demanding justice for the residents of Gaza. For them there is no question of who is to blame for this tragedy. They don't care about the reasons for the conflict. All they care about is why their governments don’t stand up for their brothers in faith and blood?

At the same time, the position of the governments of Arab countries is absolutely clear: most of them fear their own radicals much more than they fear Israel.
You can negotiate and do business with Tel Aviv, but not with radicals. Moreover, Israel has the United States and the West behind it, providing Egypt and Jordan with significant economic assistance. Therefore, Israel's neighbors do not want to interfere in the conflict and are most afraid of the fact that refugees from Gaza will go to them. But the Arab street doesn’t give a damn about these considerations.

Jordan, where Palestinians are the largest ethnic group, is in the most precarious position. If King Abdullah II does not retain power, the border between Jordan and Israel will be breached by a crowd of protesters and chaos will spread to the West Bank.

So far, the local Palestinian authorities have been able to maintain order there, but if you just “throw some fire”, Tel Aviv will have much bigger problems than Hamas in Gaza, because the border between the West Bank and Israel is much larger and much more “transparent” than with the strip .

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Topazchen

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Third front: protests in Jordan may be much worse for Israel than Hezbollah shelling

After the attack on a hospital in Gaza, which led to huge casualties, thousands of demonstrators poured into the squares of Arab cities demanding justice for the residents of Gaza. For them there is no question of who is to blame for this tragedy. They don't care about the reasons for the conflict. All they care about is why their governments don’t stand up for their brothers in faith and blood?

At the same time, the position of the governments of Arab countries is absolutely clear: most of them fear their own radicals much more than they fear Israel.
You can negotiate and do business with Tel Aviv, but not with radicals. Moreover, Israel has the United States and the West behind it, providing Egypt and Jordan with significant economic assistance. Therefore, Israel's neighbors do not want to interfere in the conflict and are most afraid of the fact that refugees from Gaza will go to them. But the Arab street doesn’t give a damn about these considerations.

Jordan, where Palestinians are the largest ethnic group, is in the most precarious position. If King Abdullah II does not retain power, the border between Jordan and Israel will be breached by a crowd of protesters and chaos will spread to the West Bank.

So far, the local Palestinian authorities have been able to maintain order there, but if you just “throw some fire”, Tel Aviv will have much bigger problems than Hamas in Gaza, because the border between the West Bank and Israel is much larger and much more “transparent” than with the strip .

-Readovka

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@Slavyangrad
The more those Middle Eastern states cozy upto Israel, the more radicals become powerful
 

Overbom

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The more those Middle Eastern states cozy upto Israel, the more radicals become powerful
Its because Arab rulers are so afraid of their radicals (more than Israel) that they have extensively studies and know exactly what type of response they should make ASAP so that they gain control of the situation

And radicals, by nature, are easily fooled. Thus, Arab countries will act outraged, release some angry statements, "win" by forcing a lot more aid to go to Gaza, and some other meaningless moves. Who knows, maybe we are finally going to have the big bazooka card, Arab League meeting and releasing a joint PR statement against Israel lol

So, don't worry about the Arab leaders, they are well versed on how to influence their radicals.

The one to pay attention which can meaningfully strategically alter the situation is Iran, and I can assure you it doesn't give two shts for that bombing. If it decides to intervene for real (not just a few missiles here and there) or not, it doesn't depend on this specific bombing.
 

Temstar

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Saudi Arabia's condemnation of the hospital bombing.

The entire Islamic world is in uproar over this. The big 3 (Iran, Saudi Arabia, Turkey) have all issued statement condemning the attack.

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Iran has run up a black flag with inscription that reads "victory from god is near" above shrine of imam rida. If this flag goes down and a red flag is raised then an attack is imminent.
 
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