Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

H2O

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18 U.S.C. §959:
Whoever, within the United States, enlists or enters himself, or hires or retains another to enlist or enter himself, or to go beyond the jurisdiction of the United States with intent to be enlisted or entered in the service of any foreign prince, state, colony, district, or people as a soldier or as a marine or seaman on board any vessel of war, letter of marque, or privateer, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

You silly monkey, such laws are only for the common masses.
 

Stierlitz

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—/ Al-Manar : Hezbollah raised a flag at the Israeli military base in Rahab on the border with Lebanon

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— / BREAKING: Lebanon's Hezbollah officially announced that the resistance forces attacked the Rahab base of the IDF

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— NEW: Hezbollah's statement regarding the conflict in Rabah outpost

In the name of God,

In response to the long-term attacks of the Zionist regime on our border villages, the Mujahideen of the Islamic Resistance attacked the positions of the Zionists with direct and suitable weapons.

Victory comes only from God, the mighty the Wise.

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— NEW: Hezbollah has announced the destruction of a Merkava tank

In the name of God,

The Mujahideen of the Islamic Resistance targeted with guided missiles a Merkava tank at the Raheb site, which led to it being directly hit and its crew being killed and wounded.

Victory comes only from God, the Mighty, the Wise.

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— Earlier this morning, Hezbollah also took responsibility for the ATGM fired on Shtula, which killed at least one IDF

That makes a total of four Hezbollah statements this morning.
 

Biscuits

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Many stories like this. Every second, every minute, Hamas probably gains new recruits like that man. People who have lost everything. The worst kind of enemies any country could make

Watch and learn
Why Hamas isn't in a hurry. During regular times, they have to share power with the other Palestinian factions and unlike Israel, they are not able to freely conscript forces into their ranks.

From bombing alone, Hamas isn't gonna take much damage, as they have fortifications already. We've seen Ukrainian weather out much more punishing barrages than some 1000 munitions a day and still have strength to hold against waves of combined arms assault.
And now Israel is trying to roll out their prototype laser iron dome interceptor. Russian, Chinese and Iranian observers should take a mighty fine interest in this.
Tbh Iran has seen the operation of the hunter many times already. Given the differences in overall tech level and experience with such weapons, it's unlikely the iron beam brings anything to the table that the hunter doesn't already.
 

Sinnavuuty

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A single carrier can sustain ~120 sorties over 3-4 days or 80-100 sorties over a period of 1-2 weeks. Two carriers will be able to surge ~240 sorties over 3-4 days which combined with 788+ VLS cells and a number of additional escorts may successfully blunt offensive operation by Hezbollah. However according to John Kirby Eisenhower will not join Ford in theater but will stay behind in reserve.
Just to make this notion of the CVN deployment a little clearer, the USS Eisenhower's departure to the Mediterranean had already been scheduled for months, it would replace the USS Gerald Ford which is already about 6 months away from home. In other words, it has nothing to do with the current crisis in Israel. What could happen, according to the circumstances, would be the USS Gerald Ford having to remain longer than expected in the Mediterranean and being able to operate together for a short period of time, it would be similar to the employment of two CVNs in the Middle East in 2020, due to tensions with Iran representing an unusual escalation of military presence.

Returning to the topic of CVNs in the Mediterranean, this permanent presence of at least one CVN in the Mediterranean is due to the war in Ukraine. I believe that if the conflict between Israel and Palastina does not escalate further in the coming weeks, the USS Gerald Ford should return to the US soon. Since the Russian invasion of Ukraine, there has been a rotation of CVNs in the Mediterranean, starting with the “ Harry Truman” then “George H.W Bush”, “Gerald Ford” and now it will be “Dwight Eisenhower”’s turn, that is, all 4 CVNs of the Atlantic Fleet participating.
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The deployment of the first, including round trip, lasted 9.5 months, the second 8.5 months, as for “Gerald Ford” it was speculated something around 6 months, perhaps because he was not yet at the same level as the veterans and, If the intention is to restart the rotation, then it may be necessary to sacrifice the “Dwight Eisenhower” in a 9-month deployment to give the “Harry Truman” time in the final maintenance phase to make sure. It also cannot be ruled out that the “Gerald Ford” returns after “only” 6/7 months of “rest” as “Dwight Eisenhower” himself did between 2020 and 2021, with the Arabian Sea as his final destination. The “Dwight Eisenhower” is after the “Nimitz”, the oldest CVN in the US Navy and in the world, but apparently it is in good shape as evidenced by the period between 2020 and 2021, when it served more than 12 months at sea combined. developments.

This deployment posture of the US Navy is already well known, after all it is unsustainable to maintain 2 CVNs for years as was attempted in the past, because this in the medium term would have a negative effect on the readiness of the task forces, as the availability of CVNs had to be reduced. , even more so in the event of an unforeseen conflict arising, in addition, other unforeseen factors may arise, such as Saudi Arabia may from one moment to the next no longer allow USAF planes to use its bases, especially if it is not threatened or not agree with certain military policies and apparently there is not a large contingent of planes there currently anyway and Italy is not that close, so a CVN is more effective because it is closer and does not depend on permission from others to be employed.

As for the CVNs of the Pacific Fleet, yesterday the USS Carl Vinson left on a mission, considered the most capable of the US Navy, but which will ultimately replace the USS Ronald Reagan which is currently visiting South Korea There are no CVNs left – see that at the moment there are 4 duly certified in their respective “Theatres” or in transit – to keep one in the “5th fleet”, much less a rotation there as already stated, so that there is good availability and even keeping ships in reserve for use in a larger crisis, especially with China.
People need to stop littering this thread with fantasy scenarios.
I agree.
 

Overbom

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Zero.

People need to stop littering this thread with fantasy scenarios.

USN CSG has tremendous defensive capability against such attacks because it has been preparing for them since the 1970s.

Russians use P-800 in combination with other modes of attack simultaneously even against less capable targets. Coastal defenses have a role but it is one of many elements.

I suggest you look up what Soviet Union had prepared for confronting carrier groups in the 1980s and then it will be more obvious why it is a ridiculous notion.
Very confident on your Zero claim

I might not be an expert but I know one thing for sure. There is no such thing as "Zero" chance in wartime and whoever so confidently says "Zero", is actually hurting his own credibility.

Any factor of weather/sea conditions, human factor, luck, technical specifications, software, maintenance/availability, faulty hardware, enemy planning, new weapon system, ambush, could enable such a missile hit to happen.

While I admit the low chance of it actually happening, I would never say zero. Many times the supposed "Zero" has actually happened

Lastly, I will say something I read from somewhere else which I found quite profound:
"The art of war is the art of turning the impossible into possible"
 

KYli

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SCOTT PELLEY: Are the wars in Israel and Ukraine more than the United States can take on at the same time?

PRESIDENT BIDEN: No. We're the United States of America for God's sake, the most powerful nation in the history-- not in the world, in the history of the world. The history of the world. We can take care of both of these and still maintain our overall international defense. We have the capacity to do this and we have an obligation to. We are the essential nation-- s-- to-- to-- to paraphrase the former secretary of state. And-- if we don't, who does?
 
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