Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

Virtup

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Iran sent a message to Israel on Saturday stressing that it does not want further escalation in the Hamas-Israel war, but that it will have to intervene if the Israeli operation in Gaza continues, two diplomatic sources with knowledge of the situation told Axios.

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I am not sure if this is a smart move for Iran. Intervening would give US/Israel excuse to attack them and I believe that Iranian proxies are already doing a good job at bleeding out their enemy Israel.
The US will most likely intervene if Hezbollah intervenes, so Iran and it's militias will have to intervene anyway. Iran will also receive massive support from Russia, NK, and maybe China. It will be like WW1 but at a much smaller scale.
 

tamsen_ikard

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It will be like WW1 but at a much smaller scale.
Haha we both thought the same thing at the same time. That means many people are also thinking about this. A WW1 type conflict in Middle east will be a huge quagmire for the US. Let's see if they thought things through and chicken out or not.

Pretty much everything depends now Israel actually. If they become sober and give up on attacking Gaza with full force and do a token angry response of bombing from the air, then everyone will be happy, including Hamas. Who will consider this a victory that they forced Israel to back off.
 

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Iran sent a message to Israel on Saturday stressing that it does not want further escalation in the Hamas-Israel war, but that it will have to intervene if the Israeli operation in Gaza continues, two diplomatic sources with knowledge of the situation told Axios.

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I am not sure if this is a smart move for Iran. Intervening would give US/Israel an excuse to attack them and I believe that Iranian proxies are already doing a good job at bleeding out their enemy Israel.
It means nothing without an official statement from Iran. We will see if it´s true the coming days. Israel has postpone it´s ground offensive. Thus, we may even see a cease-fire the coming days.
sorry.

that journalist deleted his tweet.. he is very credible but seems like he did a mistake.

constantly hearing ground operation news from credible journalist and media news outlets. but nothing happened so far.
Go figure - there is a lot fog of war. Maybe we see a cease-fire between Hamas and Israel. We will see the coming days.
 

LawLeadsToPeace

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It means nothing without an official statement from Iran. We will see if it´s true the coming days. Israel has postpone it´s ground offensive. Thus, we may even see a cease-fire the coming days.
It is official:
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Iran’s foreign minister warns Israel from Beirut to stop Gaza attacks or risk ‘huge earthquake’

BY BASSEM MROUE
Updated 11:20 AM PDT, October 14, 2023

BEIRUT (AP) — Iran’s foreign minister on Saturday called on Israel to stop its attacks on Gaza, warning that the war might expand to other parts of the Middle East if Hezbollah joins the battle, and that would make Israel suffer “a huge earthquake.”

Hossein Amirabdollahian told reporters in Beirut that Lebanon’s Hezbollah group has taken all the scenarios of a war into consideration and Israel should stop its attacks on Gaza as soon as possible.

Israel considers Hezbollah its most serious immediate threat, estimating it has some 150,000 rockets and missiles, including precision-guided missiles that can hit anywhere in Israel. The group, which has thousands of battle-hardened fighters who participated in Syria’s 12-year conflict, also has different types of military drones.



Hezbollah fighters have been on full alert along Lebanon’s borders with Israel following last Saturday’s attack by the militant Palestinian group Hamas that left hundreds of Israeli civilians and soldiers dead.


On Saturday, the Israeli military said an Israeli drone strike along the border with Lebanon killed a “cell” that was trying to infiltrate into Israel. On Friday, Hezbollah said its fighters fired several rockets at four Israel positions along the border.

On Saturday afternoon, Hezbollah fighters fired a barrage of rockets and shells at Israeli positions in the disputed Chebaa Farms. Israeli troops fired back on nearby areas in southern Lebanon.

Lebanon’s state news agency reported that a man and his wife were killed in Israeli shelling of a border village, while Hezbollah said one of its fighters was also killed Saturday.


Amirabdollahian discussed in Beirut on Saturday the situation in Gaza and the region with the top Hamas official in exile, Saleh Arouri, and the leader of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad group, Ziad Nakhaleh, according to Hezbollah’s Al-Manar TV.

Hamas officials have repeatedly said that last Saturday’s attack on southern Israel that killed over 1,300 civilians and troops was the work of the Palestinian group and Iran had nothing to do with it. Hamas officials did not respond to calls by The Associated Press to confirm and give details about the meeting.

Amirabdollahian left Beirut on Saturday afternoon following a tour that took him to Iraq, Syria and Lebanon, where Tehran enjoys wide influence.

Amirabdollahian said he met Friday with Hezbollah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah, who briefed him on the group’s conditions in Lebanon.

“I know about the scenarios that Hezbollah has put in place,” Amirabdollahian said. “Any step the resistance (Hezbollah) will take will cause a huge earthquake in the Zionist entity.”



Amirabdollahian added: “I want to warn the war criminals and those who support this entity before it’s too late to stop the crimes against civilians in Gaza, because it might be too late in few hours.”


With an eye toward Hezbollah, President Joe Biden has warned other players in the Middle East not to join the conflict and has sent American warships to the region and vowed full support for Israel.

The Iranian foreign minister said he will be contacting U.N. officials in the Middle East because “there is still an opportunity to work on an initiative (to end the war) but it might be too late tomorrow.”

The possibility of a new front in Lebanon brings back bitter memories of a vicious monthlong war between Hezbollah and Israel in 2006 that ended in a stalemate and a tense detente between the two sides.
 

Maikeru

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US attacking Iran with 85 million people, huge domestic arms industry and huge chokehold over Hormuz is also not a rational decision either. So, its hard to know if US is also just posturing. Iran may also be just bluffing.

Or maybe no one is bluffing and they will all jump into this just cause they are so emotionally charged.

This gives me the feeling of WW1 and how everyone started fighting even though no one wanted to fight. But they were so emotionally charged, angry, worried that they all had to fight regardless of the losses.

This is now a game of Chicken. Who will follow through on their words will be what determines how big the war gets.
Yeah, we just need some trouble in the Balkans to complete that early 1914 feeling. Oh, wait...
 

Derpy

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Iran sent a message to Israel on Saturday stressing that it does not want further escalation in the Hamas-Israel war, but that it will have to intervene if the Israeli operation in Gaza continues, two diplomatic sources with knowledge of the situation told Axios.

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I am not sure if this is a smart move for Iran. Intervening would give US/Israel an excuse to attack them and I believe that Iranian proxies are already doing a good job at bleeding out their enemy Israel.
Iran is 1200km from Israel with two or more countries in between, they have no way of projecting conventional power there outside of a limited number of ballistic missiles.
 

sunnymaxi

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Posters in Tehran advertising Iran's hypersonic missiles: "400 seconds to Tel Aviv

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