Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

Stierlitz

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⚡️Video of strikes on Israeli occupation military sites in the Shebaa farms area of south Lebanon

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⚡️Hezbollah has published a statement saying:

“At 3:15 pm today, Saturday 10/14/2023, groups of the Islamic Resistance attacked the Zionist positions in the occupied Lebanese Shebaa Farms: Al-Radar, Ruwaisat Al-Alam, Al-Samaqa, Zibdin and Ramtha, with guided missiles and mortar shells, inflicting precise and direct hits on them.”

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⚡️Zionist regime artillery strikes are landing between Lebanese homes now

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Macron regime security forces attack pro-Palestine peaceful protests.

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I do believe we are witnessing the islamic awakening akin to saladin uniting the caliphate to take back jerusalem. All the Muslim world needs now is a Saladin to lead them to victory. I only hope it doesn’t culminate in the modern equivalent of the siege of Acre.

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echoes of the days and weeks before the Russian special operation, when the US and NATO countries relocated their embassies from Kiev to Lviv
 
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Stierlitz

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⚔️Head of the Israeli National Security Council:

➡️We did not receive any prior warning from Egypt regarding the Hamas attack

➡️There is no doubt that we failed in our mission to repel the attack from Gaza

➡️Egypt did not give Israel any advance warning at all about a Hamas attack from Gaza

➡️Shin Bet received intelligence information on October 7, but did not expect an attack from Gaza.

➡️There is no doubt that Israel failed in its mission to prevent a Hamas attack

➡️After we overthrow Hamas’ rule, we will search for an alternative to ruling Gaza that does not pose a threat to Israel

➡️Israel is trying not to be drawn into a war on two fronts

➡️Hezbollah's actions are below the level of escalation so far

➡️We hope that Hezbollah will not destroy Lebanon

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⚔️Israeli Channel 12: The Israeli ground attack to storm the Gaza Strip will begin tonight

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"Israel Defense Forces says it is completing preparations for air, sea and land attack": the IDF is ready to launch a ground operation in the Gaza Strip "in which hundreds of thousands will take part"

"The Israel Defense Forces says it is completing preparations for a "significant ground operation" in the Gaza Strip.
The statement says they are preparing to "expand the offensive by implementing a wide range of offensive operational plans" that include a "joint and coordinated air, sea and land attack."

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J.Whitman

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BREAKING - THE US STATE DEPARTMENT STATES:

"The United States Military will immediately go into action if Hezbollah attacks, including intercepting enemy missiles."
Can you give us the original source instead of a link to X? If Israel go through with the genocide and the U.S. support Israel with military action - the U.S. will be seen as co-responsible for a genocide. Thus, the U.S. will lose most if not all it´s soft power in West Asia and across the Islamic world. What is clear is that the United States needs this war in Israel as the U.S. proxywar in Ukraine has gone to shit. Israel was supposed to launch their ground operation against Gaza at 16:00. The time is 22:20 in Israel. Maybe the U.S. and Israel got cold feets?
 

tamsen_ikard

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BREAKING - THE US STATE DEPARTMENT STATES:

"The United States Military will immediately go into action if Hezbollah attacks, including intercepting enemy missiles."
if US air power is joining the fight, then Israel with its 500K mobilized will be able to steamroll Hezbollah unless Iran joins the fight. Iran will probably stay away from this.

So, most likely outcome is Israeli victory and Hezbollah simply saying out.

Atleast that's what conventional wisdom would suggest. However, this war is no longer about rational decision making anymore. Its about emotions of anger, hatred and grievance.

If Muslims become angry enough about a potential Israeli ethnic cleansing and leveling of Gaza, then maybe they will ignore rational calculations and simply jump right into this fight including Iran and Egypt. Maybe even Gulf Arabs will be too guilt ridden to not do anything and atleast do something like an oil embargo.

The US and the west are heavily invested on Israel emotionally, will most likely will not even hesitate to do a conscription and full ground invasion if Israel was threatened enough by muslims. They will ignore everything, including losing Ukraine or Taiwan if it means they need to save Israel.

So pretty much anything can happen in this conflict. No way to predict where this will go with parties emotionally charged.


There is one way out though. Which is that Israel swallows this humiliation by Hamas and does no ground invasion. If Muslims show enough spine then US might chicken out and force Israel to swallow this attack with only an aerial bombing campaign.
 

Johnlee

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The US and the west are heavily invested on Israel emotionally, will most likely will not even hesitate to do a conscription and full ground invasion if Israel was threatened enough by muslims. They will ignore everything, including losing Ukraine or Taiwan if it means they need to save Israel.
this is accurate
 

sunnymaxi

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Can you give us the original source instead of a link to X? If Israel go through with the genocide and the U.S. support Israel with military action - the U.S. will be seen as co-responsible for a genocide. Thus, the U.S. will lose most if not all it´s soft power in West Asia and across the Islamic world. What is clear is that the United States needs this war in Israel as the U.S. proxywar in Ukraine has gone to shit. Israel was supposed to launch their ground operation against Gaza at 16:00. The time is 22:20 in Israel. Maybe the U.S. and Israel got cold feets?
sorry.

that journalist deleted his tweet.. he is very credible but seems like he did a mistake.

constantly hearing ground operation news from credible journalist and media news outlets. but nothing happened so far.
 

Stierlitz

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Iran sent a message to Israel on Saturday stressing that it does not want further escalation in the Hamas-Israel war, but that it will have to intervene if the Israeli operation in Gaza continues, two diplomatic sources with knowledge of the situation told Axios.

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I am not sure if this is a smart move for Iran. Intervening would give US/Israel an excuse to attack them and I believe that Iranian proxies are already doing a good job at bleeding out their enemy Israel.
 
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tamsen_ikard

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Iran sent a message to Israel on Saturday stressing that it does not want further escalation in the Hamas-Israel war, but that it will have to intervene if the Israeli operation in Gaza continues, two diplomatic sources with knowledge of the situation told Axios.

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I am not sure if this is a smart move for Iran. Intervening would give US/Israel excuse to attack them and I believe that Iranian proxies are already doing a good job at bleeding out their enemy.
US attacking Iran with 85 million people, huge domestic arms industry and huge chokehold over Hormuz is also not a rational decision either. So, its hard to know if US is also just posturing. Iran may also be just bluffing.

Or maybe no one is bluffing and they will all jump into this just cause they are so emotionally charged.

This gives me the feeling of WW1 and how everyone started fighting even though no one wanted to fight. But they were so emotionally charged, angry, worried that they all had to fight regardless of the losses.

This is now a game of Chicken. Who will follow through on their words will be what determines how big the war gets.
 
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