Given there extreme entitlement and lack of empathy, it’s quite easy to see why nobody wants these people around
Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)
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Maybe their next "historical homeland" can be in India. Maybe they will find evidence of 3000 year old claims in Delhi.
Oh now the garbage MSM is catching up to idea the killing Hezbollah and Hamas leaders will only means that you don't have anyone to negotiate, doesn't alter the group goals and combat operations.
You have votes in the UN votes where it is literally the US+Israel versus the rest of the world.
Now, the UN is toothless because of the US veto, but you can see what everyone thinks, which includes NATO allies.
I think Palestine is the one issue in the world which is near-universal.
You're looking at this as an enclosed system with only Israel and Lebanon, but reality is Israel is entirely reliant on US weapons and financial aid, while Hezbollah is supported by Iran, who in turn is supported by Russia and China. The question you need to ask isn't if Israel can degrade Hezbollah or Lebanon, it's if Israel can degrade Iran more than its degrading itself, and at a larger scale can it degrade China and Russia more than its actions are degrading the United States.
This is why the war can become existential for Israel this time, in all previous conflicts United States was in a globally dominant economic, industrial and military position, and there was no Russia-China alliance on the side of their enemy with global dominance in both industry and resources. Hezbollah is an externally supplied grass root guerrilla force that can and has survived degradation, but to do so Israel is irreversibly degrading both itself and United States diplomatically, economically and militarily, all while the cost to Iran is minimal, and cost to China and Russia even less.
A United States that loses USD reserve currency, or worse gets into a war with China, is a US that will no longer be able to supply Israel with weapons, missiles, or even ammunition, and in such a situation Israel, having just burnt all their bridges for diplomacy, and having no experience surviving like Palestinians, would be destroyed
A smarter Israel would understand the global situation US is in, realize their reliance on it, and try to minimize the damage they're doing to the US for their own sake, but then they wouldn't be Israel.
Also remember that Russia has nothing left to lose, as relations have completely broken down with the West.
It does look like the war in Ukraine may end in the coming year.
At which point, the Russians will seek to cause the US pain with regards to Israel.
This Rabbi is part of the same Chabad Lubavitch movement whose founder mentored Netanyahu.
Hezbollah comes from the Shiite population in Lebanon.
So if there is no occupation, Hezbollah will rebuild with time, given that they have a land-based supply route to Iran.
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And looking to future decades, the US is going to have to divert everything it has to the Western Pacific to counter China, so where does that leave Israel?
Remember that Israel is surrounded with hostile or unfriendly lands, populated by refugees whose homes were were taken to create the Israeli state.
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As a recent Manifold podcast points out, Israel has 5 major electricity power stations. I see 2 major oil refineries in Israel as well.
And Iran has demonstrated that it can get through Israeli missile defences.
If Israel keeps escalating with Iran, then we can expect to see long-term petrol and electricity shortages in Israel.
Can anyone answer why Israel’s rivals tend to prefer low-to-medium intensity longer-range conflict?
Israel seems to excel at that. Its assassinations, bombings, and missile defence are top notch.
On the other hand, in higher intensity Ukraine-style war, numbers matter far more, and in that respect Israel is outmatched more than ten to one.
From Ukraine, we’ve seen that airforces can be fairly effectively suppressed with air defence.
Wouldn’t it be better for Israel’s rivals to escalate to a full land war?
Israel seems to excel at that. Its assassinations, bombings, and missile defence are top notch.
On the other hand, in higher intensity Ukraine-style war, numbers matter far more, and in that respect Israel is outmatched more than ten to one.
From Ukraine, we’ve seen that airforces can be fairly effectively suppressed with air defence.
Wouldn’t it be better for Israel’s rivals to escalate to a full land war?
"people that have an all encompassing view that starts at 1948"
Even 1948 is too late a starting point for "an all encompassing view." Zionist efforts to take over Palestine began well before then.