That is true, but the state violence and displacement started around 1948.
Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)
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Displacement also began before 1948. Prior to 1948, various immigrant Jewish terrorist groups operated in Palestine who then merged to form what is today called IDF. Irgun, Haganah, Lehi, and Betar are some notable examples. There was also Jewish Legion of the British army operating in Palestine. Many prominent Israeli prime ministers and politicians had their roots in these terrorist organizations.
Been there done that. Ever heard of the Yom-Kippur War?
The Arab armies led by Egypt and Syria failed at it. And today's Egyptian and Syrian armies are much worse equipped than they were back then. They had huge support by the Soviet Union.
Ukraine and Russia both have comparable recon capability, both tactical (drones) and strategic (satellites: Ukraine from NATO, Russia from itself). Ukraine is heavily forested and consists of medium density villages that have linked built up areas suitable for defensive urban warfare. The forest and village belts provide cover and concealment for maneuver forces as well as strong lines that make it hard to counterattack once a position is taken, assuming roughly equal numbers.
As an example of why data and cover matter, Israel somehow encircled the Egyptian 3rd army during Yom Kippur in the Sinai. This shows that without cover and recon data, any maneuver warfare in the desert is doomed to failure.
A common thing with fascist states is that they care more about image and short term gains than strategy. For example Nazi Germany trying to seige Stalingrad for political clout, Israel bombing journalists, US bombing the shit out of the Middle East for cheap resources uncaring on how it will affect them in the long run and AFU bombing random apartment blocks in Russia. This is also the reason why fascist states are almost always guaranteed to lose wars, they can't make long term plans and see the bigger picture, they always react instead of being proactive.
Isreal is a settler colonial state. It has no true unity inside of it, it only stays together due state sanctioned violence and racism. Isreal then projects this towards their enemies and assumes that they work on the same principle and that if you destroy high ranking officials the movement will scatter apart. Much like Isreal would if you killed off their high ranking leadership.
There is. From a western point of view this war is horrifying to a personal level.
They were taught Jews are the good guys always under unjust persecution. Turns out they have no hesitation harming other innocents. Their support of genocide is near uanimous. This shocking reveal destroyed confidence of everything they knew.
They are being told most bold face lie like "IDF is the most moral army", against video evidence of IDF soldiers gleefully committing war crime. They become aware of how insane their entire government is across all spectrum. Part of their anger toward IDF is actually them lashing out on their own governement and media, rather than suffering of Gaza children.
Upon realizing this, they become aware how absolutely powerless they are, over their own government. All politicians are bought over, regardless affiliation. AIPAC brag how they can make anyone win. Israeli laugh at their outrage, knowing their government will bend over backward regardless of their outrage. And worst part, the Israelis are correct. The illusion of democracy shatters.
The final realisation is they are as occupied as Gaza. Israel controls everything in their own country, media, politicians, military. Any criticism is outlawed as hate speech. The superpower they were proud of are no more than a puppet. They are ruled by a foriegn dictator with an iron fist. They no longer own their own country. If Gazans are fighting against that dictator, then they are fighting for American's liberation. My liberation. Gazans are fighting the same enemy as ours, and their suffering is our suffering. Gazans are no longer one of countless people suffering, they are one of us. And I wish our side can win.
Not really. The volume of bombing has been too lacking to defeat even 1 Mariupol sized stronghold. In terms of military leaders, they've only taken out Sinwar in a year of war. Keep in mind this guy commands ~30k soldiers, making him a lieutenant or major general. It's a blow to the military command of the defenders, but nothing like what Russia achieves on the AFU command. Civilian leaders essentially exist for morale/martyrdom purposes only and can be trivially replaced, which is why they aren't afraid to go risky, much like we've seen Zelensky go near the front.
Iran is currently dominating the escalation ladder, but that can change in a moment if US joins the war. It will be globally speaking unsurvivable for US, but might also lead to Iran being destroyed alongside US, like Afghanistan and the USSR.
So it makes sense for Iran to wait for US to weaken more before committing to all out war.
plawolf
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It’s easy to explain when you realise that Modern Israel is, at its core, a western entity with true western values and ideology.
The collective west never really matured to the point of having a truly diplomatic mindset of accepting other races and cultures as equals. They always have, and continue to see themselves as the one true master race. Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians is entirely in keeping with how Western colonialists treated the coloured locals who didn’t want to be good slaves.
The only people who are truly shocked by Israel’s behaviour are the ones brainwashed by western historic whitewashing and virtue signalling propaganda.
But anyone who looks at what the west does instead of just listening to their lies and excuses, you really shouldn’t be surprised since they have never really shaken the righteous barbarism at their core.
Israel's rivals don't want to get sucked into a war with the USA, which is still very powerful.
Today we're looking at 90%+ of the global population who disapprove of Israel as an apartheid state or as a settler-colonial states
Currently PwC estimate that the "West" accounts for about 40% of global GDP
They forecast that this will decline to 20% of global GDP.
In other words, countries comprising 90%+ of the global population and 80% of economic activity will be against Israel's genocide of the Palestinians.
In such a world, the US and the West will not have sufficient power to support Israel.
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And the next generation of politicians in much of the West will not like Israel.