Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

quim said:

Israel just wants to kill as many adversaries as possible, with or without declared war. If it weren't for that, they would have already negotiated peace.

Today Israel is just killing with impunity. Israeli infrastructure is intact, with weapons and oil depots full. Their economy has always been supported by the west. They have more jets and missiles and bombs than ever before and they are getting more and more from the US and Europe. Meanwhile, Gaza is worse than the Warsaw ghetto, Lebanon's economy is a disaster and Hezbollah suffers countless casualties with impunity.

Perhaps Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran are nothing more than controlled opposition and that is why they are losing credibility every day.

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Hezbollah is already rendering north Israel uninhabitable and has destroyed all military and intel installations. They can't really do much more than that. The Hezbollah missile card is a one time use, because the moment it is used to hit the central regions of Israel, the US will intervene, hit Iran, and terrorize the Lebanese people, who will then turn on Hezbollah. Yemen is blocking the Red Sea and doing a solid job there. All these entities were ultimately relying on the international community to come to their aid after seeing the level of cruelty and disregard for international and humanitarian law. The only problem here is the US vetoes every resolution for peace in the UN security council and control all international court systems and does not care about its reputation, because reputation is irrelevant in politics, and it is a war state that spends almost all its revenue on its military, so what's a few billion more annually to prop up its 51 state? The only hope for the future is China bankrupting the US and breaking it into smaller states, otherwise this global terror will never stop and will keep spreading to every state.

obj 705A said:

I hear analysts all the time talking about how Hezbolah is much more capable than Hamas yet what we have seen in the past few days contradicts that.

Hezbolah supposedly has 60k militants in addition to ATGMs & a large stockpile of long range missiles while Hamas has 30k militants and a far much smaller stockpile of primitive rockets and depends mainly on primitive homemade explosives that have to be put manualy by Hamas militants on IDF tanks.

yet within a few days Hezbolah suffered thousands of casualties including a significant number who lost their eyesight and Israel has been constantly taking out senior Hezbolah leaderships.

Hamas has demonstarted that they are far much more professional than Hezbolah. actually Hezbolah look like a bunch of amateurs when compared to Hamas. Hezbolah is basicaly in a state of war with Israel yet these senior leaderhips were all gathering in one building for a meating as if they are going to a tea party? are you serious? Hezbolah does have tunnels. all meatings should be in the tunnels.

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Hamas couldn't defend their territory. Hezbollah actually managed to stop the invasion of militant Jews in 2006. Of course they're going to take damage from airstrikes and other attacks. But if they try to invade Lebanon again, then we can assess the strength of Hezbollah.

Right now, the Jewish state looks like a terrorist state to everyone in the global south and everyone will agree that they're the aggressor. That makes direct American involvement less likely and gives Hezbollah and its supporters the moral high ground. Some losses today don't really matter, if they're achieved using crimes against humanity. It will only lead to more volunteers from Syria and Iraq arriving. It's quite remarkable that the Lebanese government is actually condemning the attacks, they might even help Hezbollah defend their country

These attacks are comparable to the small attacks Russia/DPR/LPR did just before the Ukraine war started. Ukraine didn't invade Russia or attack its cities in response, they didn't take the bait but waited for Russia to go in. This must be the Lebanese approach too

FriedButter said:

Israel wants a wider war but the other side is asking themselves if and why they should give them what they want. They committed a big war crime provocation but hasn't done anything big since. 4 days later and Lebanon hasn’t been invaded. Any communication chaos caused by now would be closed or rapidly closing. So it points to a question of why did they reveal a capability for no apparent gain.

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They have to convince the domestic population that everything is under control (which it's not). Those Israelis who evacuated the north will be straining local governments elsewhere in the country. Israel has to "appear" safe and secure - this is doable on the media where the audience is pretty dumb, but hard to convince the folk on the receiving end in reality (hence the large scale protesting inside Israel).

quim said:

Today Israel is just killing with impunity. Israeli infrastructure is intact, with weapons and oil depots full. Their economy has always been supported by the west. They have more jets and missiles and bombs than ever before and they are getting more and more from the US and Europe. Meanwhile, Gaza is worse than the Warsaw ghetto, Lebanon's economy is a disaster and Hezbollah suffers countless casualties with impunity.

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Where are you getting this info from?
Considering how much military aid to Ukraine had to be suspended and diverted to Israel by USA indicates anything but "full" depots. And how about the actual soldiers? Many months ago, Israel was contracting foreign mercenaries as well as trying to lift the exemption on Haredim for conscription. Doesn't sound very full. Rather it sounds the exact opposite - deficient. Not to forget political turmoil shortly before the war in which tens of thousands of soldiers refuse to show up on duty in protests which are still raging in Israel.