Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

tankphobia

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The Israeli military said it killed top Hezbollah military commanders, including the militia's head of operations Ibrahim Aqil, on Friday in an airstrike on a southern Beirut neighborhood. Lebanon's health ministry said at least 12 people were killed and dozens more were wounded.

The big picture: The strike in Beirut is further escalating the fighting between Israel and Hezbollah, risking an all-out war.

Hezbollah has not confirmed Aqil's death.
The IDF said Aqil was the head of Hezbollah's military operations and the commander of the elite Radwan Forces, and was killed along with other commanders in the unit.
An Israeli official said the senior command of the Radwan forces — about 20 commanders — were killed in the strike.
IDF spokesperson Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari said in a press conference that Aqil and the Radwan unit commanders were killed as they held a meeting.

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If Israeli claims are true, we should know by tomorrow since Hezbollah always reveals its loses.
Can't trust phones because networks are compromised.
Can't use pagers because they are bombs.
Can't use handheld radios because they are also bombs.
Meet in person and get bombed.

Whatever they are paying the mole must be huge since they seem to have unreasonable pull within Hezbollah.

There's no hope that Israel will be able to conduct conventional warfare again Hezbollah without heavy casualties, so going after C&C and leadership seems sane.
 

_killuminati_

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There's no hope that Israel will be able to conduct conventional warfare again Hezbollah without heavy casualties, so going after C&C and leadership seems sane.
Seems futile, rather. Leadership can be replaced. There's no shortage of members, especially now of all times.

Westerners fail to understand, time and time again, the idea that bombing civilians will only infuriate the family and friends of the victims into joining resistance groups. The Apartheid would've been better off sowing discord between Hezbollah and other Lebanese groups. Yet here, they are doing the exact opposite, indicating frustration within their own ranks.
 

tankphobia

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Seems futile, rather. Leadership can be replaced. There's no shortage of members, especially now of all times.
Hezbollah is hardly 'just' a militia, they are basically a full fledged military force. As you scale up the size of your forces you can no longer get away with getting leadership murked left right and centre. Competent leadership is hard to come by and the current intensity of conflict is not harsh enough of an environment for good leaders to grow. You can hardly learn to lead an army 100k+ strong by lobbing rockets at Israeli border checkpoint every weekend.
 

RedBaron

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The Israeli military said it killed top Hezbollah military commanders, including the militia's head of operations Ibrahim Aqil, on Friday in an airstrike on a southern Beirut neighborhood. Lebanon's health ministry said at least 12 people were killed and dozens more were wounded.

The big picture: The strike in Beirut is further escalating the fighting between Israel and Hezbollah, risking an all-out war.

Hezbollah has not confirmed Aqil's death.
The IDF said Aqil was the head of Hezbollah's military operations and the commander of the elite Radwan Forces, and was killed along with other commanders in the unit.
An Israeli official said the senior command of the Radwan forces — about 20 commanders — were killed in the strike.
IDF spokesperson Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari said in a press conference that Aqil and the Radwan unit commanders were killed as they held a meeting.

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If Israeli claims are true, we should know by tomorrow since Hezbollah always reveals its loses.
— In total, 12 Hezbollah members were killed, including 8 commanders:

1. 'Martyr Commander Ibrahim Aqeel'
2. 'Martyr Commander Seraj Hodraj'
3. 'Martyr Commander Hamza Al-Gharbya'
4. 'Martyr Commander al-Hajj Naynawah'
5. 'Martyr Commander Abu Yasser'
6. 'Martyr Commander Mahdi Albookas'
7. 'Martyr Commander Abu Hussain Wahbi'
8. 'Martyr Commander Muhammad al-Attar'
9. 'Martyr Hajj Hassan Hodraj'
10. 'Martyr Hajj Mahdi Jamool'
11. 'Martyr Hajj Abbas Musalmani'
12. 'Martyr Hajj Samer Halawi'

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RobertC

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For the United States the relevant document on booby traps is
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Material addressed at several points but generally begins at page 426
6.12.4.8 Booby-Traps and Other Devices in the Form of Apparently Harmless
Portable Objects Specifically Designed to Explode. It is prohibited in all circumstances to use
booby-traps or other devices in the form of apparently harmless portable objects that are
specifically designed and constructed to contain explosive material.
This prohibition relates to
booby-traps manufactured to resemble items, such as watches, personal audio players, cameras,
toys, and the like. This prohibition is intended to prevent the production of large quantities of
dangerous objects that can be scattered around and are likely to be attractive to civilians,
especially children.
America's continued funding and failure to condemn Israel's atrocities makes us complicit.
 
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FriedButter

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honestly I cannot blame Israel for doing this. while it's true that Israel mainly targets civilians in it's wars however this particular attack was not a terrorist attack. this was a briliant & successful military operation, the vast majority of the injured are Hezbolah fighters not civilians

Still a war crime or in western media favorite phase. State Terrorism. Also Israel is a signatory.

Article 7 (2)

2. It is prohibited to use booby-traps or other devices in the form of apparently harmless portable objects which are specifically designed and constructed to contain explosive material.

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Volker Türk, UN High Commissioner​

International humanitarian law prohibits the use of booby-trap devices in the form of apparently harmless portable objects which are specifically designed and constructed to contain explosive material.

It is a war crime to commit violence intended to spread terror among civilians.
Mr. President,

Excellencies,

I am appalled by the breadth and impact of the attacks on 17 and 18 September in Lebanon on civilians, where the explosion of pagers, two-way radios, and other electronic devices have reportedly killed at least 37 people, including two children, and injured more than 3,400 people in Lebanon alone, leaving many with permanent disabilities and healthcare facilities struggling to cope with the magnitude of the impact on people.

These attacks represent a new development in warfare, where communication tools become weapons, simultaneously exploding across marketplaces, on street corners, and in homes as daily life unfolds. Authorities have reportedly dismantled unexploded devices in universities, banks, and hospitals.

This has unleashed widespread fear, panic, and horror among people in Lebanon, already suffering in an increasingly volatile situation since October 2023 and crumbling under a severe and longstanding economic crisis.

This cannot be the new normal.

Mr. President,

War has rules. For each and every party to this and any other armed conflict.
  • Armed force – that is, violence against other human beings – can only be used where necessary to achieve a valid military objective.
  • In doing so, the fundamental distinction between civilian and military targets must be front and centre.
  • All feasible precautions must be taken to spare civilians. Attacks must remain proportional to the wider damage they inflict.
  • Persons not exercising a continuous combat function in an armed group can only be targeted when taking a direct part in hostilities.
At their core, these rules have the paramount aim of effectively protecting civilians.
International human rights law exists to protect the equality and dignity of every human being, even in times of war.
Law exists to defend values central to our societies, and to our world.

Simultaneous targeting of thousands of individuals, whether civilians or members of armed groups, without knowledge as to who was in possession of the targeted devices, their location, and their surroundings at the time of the attack, violates international human rights law and, as applicable, international humanitarian law.

It is difficult to conceive how, in these circumstances, such attacks could possibly conform with the key principles of distinction, proportionality, and precautions in attack, under international humanitarian law. If the attacker is unable to assess the compliance of the attack with binding rules of international law, notably the likely impact on civilians, then the attack should not be carried out.

International humanitarian law prohibits the use of booby-trap devices in the form of apparently harmless portable objects which are specifically designed and constructed to contain explosive material.

It is a war crime to commit violence intended to spread terror among civilians.

I call, again, for an independent, thorough, and transparent investigation into the circumstances of these explosions. Those who ordered and carried out these attacks must be held to account.

Let me be clear – this method of warfare may be new and unfamiliar. But international humanitarian and human rights law apply regardless and must be upheld.

These attacks occurred amidst hostilities between Israel and Hezbollah, which since 8 October last year have caused civilian casualties on both sides. According to the Lebanese Ministry of Health figures released in August, over 500 people have been killed, over 2,400 injured and, according to IOM, over 110,000 displaced in Lebanon. The Government of Israel reported 48 people killed in Israel and over 63,000 displaced in the context of these hostilities. The last 24 hours have seen intensified cross-border military action in Lebanon and Israel.

This tragic situation cannot be seen in isolation – it is bound up with the war in Gaza, spiralling violence in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem and Israel’s continued occupation of Palestinian territory. The heightened risk of further atrocity crimes remains. As repeatedly stated, the humanitarian situation for 2.2 million Palestinians in Gaza is catastrophic.

Over 1,200 people were killed on 7 October in Israel. In Gaza, over 100 hostages are still held by Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups. Over 41,200 Palestinians, mostly women and children, have been killed as a result of the intensive Israeli offensives, and over 95,500 injured in Gaza, according to the Gaza Ministry of Health.

I am outraged by this inconceivable toll of human suffering.

For the UN and other humanitarian responders, ongoing hostilities, access constraints, attacks on staff and facilities, and damaged infrastructure along with the deteriorating security situation, including looting and frequent Israeli-issued evacuation orders, are key factors obstructing the delivery of sufficient lifesaving aid across the Gaza Strip.
Ending the war in Gaza and averting a full-blown regional conflict is an absolute and urgent priority.

I call for an immediate ceasefire, and for continuous humanitarian access to be ensured throughout the Strip.

I urge the immediate and unconditional release of all hostages held in Gaza.

The arbitrary detention by Israel of thousands of Palestinians must end.

The wider situation of illegality across the occupied Palestinian territory deriving from Israel’s policies and practices, as so clearly spelled out by the International Court of Justice in its Advisory Opinion in July, must be comprehensively addressed.

Mr. President,

Disrespect for international law is a matter of international peace and security - the core obligation of this Council - with implications beyond these countries and this region.

States have constructed international human rights and humanitarian law precisely for moments like these - when life, dignity and our very humanity are at risk.

As such, States must not – cannot – accept blatant disregard for international law, including binding decisions of the Security Council and orders of the International Court of Justice.

They must not – cannot – allow the hollowing out of international law and its protective core. Neither in this nor in any other situation around the world.

All States, particularly those with influence, must do everything they can to ensure full respect for international law.
Just over ten days ago, in my address to the Human Rights Council in Geneva I urged the rejection of a new normal of endless, vicious military escalation and increasingly alarming technologically “advanced” methods of warfare.

The warnings from multiple actors against an all-out war in the region have been clear and consistent. It would benefit no one. Continuing on this path of inflamed war rhetoric on all sides and reckless, military escalation only leads to further devastation. I urge Israel and Hezbollah to cease hostilities immediately.

The spectre of this region’s past – the unending cycles of conflict, the human rights grievances and causes of which have been ignored and trampled on – is palpable and omnipresent.

The complexity of this moment – and the stakes for people everywhere - demand much more from the international community, to achieve an enduring peace.

This crisis requires political courage and leadership.
Thank you.
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jiajia99

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When the same happens to these thugs, I bet the U.S. will complain about it, but by then most of the global south would either shrug or cheer and most of these people that praise Israel for what they do will either fall silent or beg what ever false god they worship for salvation, only not to get any. I have a feeling this will happen soon though
 

SolarWarden

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#3 who moved up to #2 of hezbollah and many many top commanders taken out by Israel

What a horrific week for hezbollah with their ability to communicate being cut off it is sheer panic and these are the results. Israel has pretty much gutted the top of hezbollah's hierarchy. Who is next Nasrallah?

Please stay calm killuminati for using OSINT as source.
 
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