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ZeEa5KPul

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Passing Jordan isn't surprise to me, remember the pagers are made in Taiwan, a closet ally to US/Israel. Also the supposed company BAC is in Hungary. It is this cover company actually bought and sold these pagers. They certainly arranged the transportation. The problem is that Hezbollah and Iran got fooled by a cover company of Israel.

I suspect what actually happened was that Iran/Hezbollah tried to bury their purchase in daily commercial trade, therefor they did not make the deal and arrangement of logistic directly, instead they turned to a trader BAC. They did not know that BAC is actually Israeli cover.
It would be ironic but entirely unsurprising if the pagers turn out to be made in China by a contract manufacturer and then shipped by BAC to the location they were tampered with before heading to Lebanon.

Edit: What Iran, Hezbollah, et al. really need to buy from China are X-ray scanners.
 
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coolgod

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It would be ironic but entirely unsurprising if the pagers turn out to be made in China by a contract manufacturer and then shipped by BAC to the location they were tampered with before heading to Lebanon.

Edit: What Iran, Hezbollah, et al. really need to buy from China are X-ray scanners.
Taiwanese media already reported that the device were made in Taiwan, this is verified by the factory owner in a new interview and verified by Taiwanese government customs data. The pagers were implanted with bombs in Taiwan.
 

SolarWarden

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Still peddling misinformation?

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Even more likely is they bought from a local Lebanese commercial retailer/dealer, with neither knowing the origin and logistics.

That is assuming only Hezbollah bought the devices, of which there is no evidence.
Why so salty? What is misinformation about hezbo announcing deaths of their members? Stop your complaining and put me on ignore if you get too bent out of shape when I post.
 

_killuminati_

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Why so salty? What is misinformation about hezbo announcing deaths of their members? Stop your complaining and put me on ignore if you get too bent out of shape when I post.
The part where you associate 'Hezbollah announcing deaths of their members'... with... 'caused by Israeli pager operation'.

Do you have an actual source to confirm that these deaths are caused by the Israeli terrorist operation?

Hezbollah has been announcing these for months without providing the cause, including this one. So why are you ADDING this extra detail and associating it with Hezbollah when their own channels haven't done so? Isn't this misinformation?

We know Zionist propaganda and Hasbara very well. It is important to point it out and bifurcate the nonsense from reality.

Thousands of hezbollah members will not be able to participate in the coming invasion by Israel and it's starting to look like the hezbo members carrying pagers were Leftenants/field commanders folks with some sort of leadership status.
How did you verify a Hezbollah member was carrying the pager and not a civilian paramedic? Source?
 

RedMetalSeadramon

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Line goes to another shell in in Bulgaria, operated by an Indian with Norwegian citizenship. This guy is most likely a Mossad asset, judging by his profile.

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Special Coverage: Hezbollah Pager Explosions Case Shifts from Hungary-Registered Company to Bulgaria Firm Owned by Norwegian​


Preliminary information links the Bulgarian company Norta Global Ltd. to the sale of pagers used by Hezbollah, which later exploded in Lebanon. The Hungarian-registered firm BAC Consulting Ltd. reportedly acted as an intermediary.

The pagers, which bore the logo of Taiwanese company Gold Apollo, have caused controversy. After the explosions, Gold Apollo denied any involvement in their production, stating that it had licensed the brand to BAC Consulting Kft for sales in specific regions. Gold Apollo clarified that BAC was responsible for the design and manufacturing.

BAC Consulting, owned by 49-year-old Cristiana Arcidiancono-Barsony, who holds both Hungarian and Italian heritage, also denied involvement. Registered as a limited liability company in May 2022, BAC is listed at a residential address in Budapest, Szőnyi út 33/A.

The investigation has now shifted focus to Norta Global Ltd., a shell company based in Sofia, Bulgaria, owned by Norwegian citizen Rinson Jose. Its registered office is located at Vitosha Street No. 48, ground floor, Sofia, in the Triaditsa district, another residential address.

The Bulgarian company, like its Hungarian counterpart, is registered with a headquarters service provider, which hosts 196 other companies. Norta Global Ltd. was founded in April 2022 and is officially engaged in project management. However, it is presumed that the company does not manufacture anything.

In response to media reports alleging that a Bulgarian-registered company supplied pagers to Hezbollah, which were subsequently detonated in Lebanon and Syria, the State Agency for National Security (SANS) clarified that no customs operations involving these goods were conducted within Bulgaria. SANS, in collaboration with the National Revenue Agency and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, is conducting joint inspections to investigate any possible involvement of the Bulgarian company in supplying communication equipment to Hezbollah.

SANS reports that only cash flows—around 1.6 million euros—passed through Bulgaria, with the funds being transferred to Hungary, according to a report by bTV. The investigation aims to determine the extent of Norta Global Ltd.'s involvement, if any, in the supply chain of equipment used by the Lebanese organization.



More details on Norta Global Ltd. and its owner, Rinson Jose:

Norta Global Ltd., a Bulgarian-registered company, has been drawn into an investigation surrounding its alleged role in the provision of pagers linked to explosions involving Hezbollah in Lebanon.

Founded in April 2022, Norta Global claims to operate as a project management firm. However, its registration at a shared residential address on Vitosha Street in Sofia—a site serving as the headquarters for nearly 200 other businesses—has raised suspicions that it may be a shell company.

The company’s online presence is sparse and unconvincing. Its website, globalnorta.com, a simple WordPress page hosted by FastComet in Frankfurt, contains only generic text with no real details about its operations.

Registered on April 11, 2022, the website is archived on the Wayback Machine.

Interestingly, the contact page links to a Facebook account under the name NortaLink, an entity that may be connected to Norta Global and appears to have operated as a previous shell company.

Both Norta Global and NortaLink are tied to a Norwegian citizen named Rinson Jose, though it remains unclear whether the same person is involved in both ventures or if this connection is merely coincidental.

Rinson Jose, if indeed the same individual, has a professional history that raises further questions. His LinkedIn profile lists him as the customer journey and CRM lead at DN Media Group, a position he has held since March 2022.

In this role, Jose has reportedly led efforts to digitize processes across brands, focusing on automation and HubSpot CRM strategies. Before this, he worked as the customer dialogue lead for subscriptions at the same company from 2020 to 2022.

Jose is also listed as an entrepreneur at NortaLink, a firm described as an IT services, consulting, and recruiting company. His involvement with NortaLink dates back to December 2016, though the company’s actual operations are difficult to verify.

His LinkedIn page also reflects previous business development roles, including stints at Keystone Academic Solutions and Gelato, a Norwegian IT company.

Despite his background in digital services, there is no indication that he or his associated companies have any expertise in hardware manufacturing, which makes the connection to the alleged sale of communication devices highly questionable.

The Facebook page linked to NortaLink shows activity between February 2017 and October 2021 but provides little substantial information, consisting mostly of generic posts.

NortaLink’s LinkedIn page, which directs users to norta.no, describes it as a software consulting firm, but once again, the lack of visible operations or tangible products calls the legitimacy of this company into question.

Whether Rinson Jose truly runs these entities or if there is another layer of obfuscation remains uncertain, leaving room for doubt about his direct involvement.

While reports implicate Norta Global in facilitating transactions for Hezbollah, it is important to emphasize that Bulgaria’s State Agency for National Security (SANS) has confirmed that no customs operations involving these pagers took place within the country.

Approximately 1.6 million euros linked to Norta Global flowed through Bulgaria and were transferred to Hungary, suggesting that the company’s role may have been primarily financial rather than operational.

However, without clear evidence of manufacturing or direct supply of hardware, any allegations against Jose, if indeed connected, should be treated with caution.

Given Jose’s background in IT consulting and digital marketing, the apparent lack of experience in manufacturing communication devices is puzzling. This raises legitimate questions about whether Norta Global is truly connected to these activities or if it serves as a financial intermediary for more shadowy operations.

The possibility that the pagers were assembled elsewhere and never passed through European customs only deepens the uncertainty surrounding Norta Global’s involvement.

Thus, while Rinson Jose’s name surfaces in connection with these companies, the absence of clear operational links to the allegations and the complex nature of shell companies suggests that further investigation is needed before drawing definitive conclusions.

Taiwanese media already reported that the device were made in Taiwan, this is verified by the factory owner in a new interview and verified by Taiwanese government customs data. The pagers were implanted with bombs in Taiwan.

Strong disagree.

These pagers were assembled in Europe. That specific model, AR924 has a different point of origin then other models.

If i were to guess, i say Germany is the site of assembly.
 
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coolgod

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Line goes to another shell in in Bulgaria, operated by an Indian with Norwegian citizenship. This guy is most likely a Mossad asset, judging by his profile.

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Strong disagree.

These pagers were assembled in Europe. That specific model, AR924 has a different point of origin then other models.

If i were to guess, i say Germany is the site of assembly.
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Not sure why you are following Israeli shell companies when the owner of Gold Apollo and Taiwan government economics dept already admit the pagers were manufactured in Taiwan. Given the difficulty in unsealing and resealing the pagers due to its waterproof seal from ultrasonic welding, it was most likely had the bombs implanted in Taiwan.
 
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RedMetalSeadramon

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Not sure why you are following Israeli shell companies when the owner of Gold Apollo and Taiwan government economics dept already admit the pagers were manufactured in Taiwan. Given the difficulty in unsealing and resealing the pagers due to its waterproof seal from ultrasonic welding, it was most likely had the bombs implanted in Taiwan.

They are not specifying the model number. I think this is an overinterpretation from what their CEO and Taipei functionaries said.

Gold Apollo's website is up, they taken the AR924 off as expected.

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Look at the pagers product line, pretty much every pager they have screw closed, not ultrasonic welded

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Someone else with a ultrasonic welder made AR924
 

RedBaron

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According to Lebanon's health minister: "We had around 2,800 patients who presented to the emergency rooms, which eventually we had 12 fatalities,” after the first wave of device explosions, Abiad said. “We had almost 300 patients in critical conditions, and almost 450 patients who required operations for eye injuries, hand injuries, amputations".

Taking into an account that large number of people who have sustained injuries are civilians, it is clear that propagandist claims of "thousands of Hezbollah fighters not being able to fight anymore" are completely wrong.
 

manqiangrexue

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According to Lebanon's health minister: "We had around 2,800 patients who presented to the emergency rooms, which eventually we had 12 fatalities,” after the first wave of device explosions, Abiad said. “We had almost 300 patients in critical conditions, and almost 450 patients who required operations for eye injuries, hand injuries, amputations".

Taking into an account that large number of people who have sustained injuries are civilians, it is clear that propagandist claims of "thousands of Hezbollah fighters not being able to fight anymore" are completely wrong.
If this is the case, I think Hezbollah's gonna be getting a big wave of applications from new guys and a lot of them are gonna be people who are either pissed off for what happened to friends/family or willing to fight suicidally because life just ain't the same as a cripple, especially if your religion teaches belief in the afterlife. While whole limb amputations and wheelchair confinement can mostly take away the ability of a fighter to perform effectively, (perhaps confining them to sniper roles), lesser injuries like facial trauma, mangled hands, maimed genitals (which I heard were common since pagers were placed in pockets) can become overcomable obstacles to a fighter's efficiency while removing his sense of self-preservation and imbuing him suicidal conviction.

Do I think this is a good thing? Am I trying to paint this as a positive for Hezbollah? No. This is a horrible event, but I think it is a surmountable setback that will not give Israel the full edge they wanted and needed and there can be silver linings as mentioned above. The biggest thing they should learn is that they need their electronics sourced directly from trusted Chinese vendors with guarded transport lines going through no third nation ports but directly to Lebanon where Chinese security personel hand them over to the Hezbollah's recipient.
 
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