Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)
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Does china need to respond tit for tat?
EU is weakening more so than Russia.
And what happened to the much vaulted US "real power" which allowed Israel to do whatever they wanted? They got smacked back by Iran, which have been under sanctions for decades. And they still can't stop Houthis from hitting container ships. I'd say the US is doing just fine destroying its own credibility especially in the middle east.
Is 99% interception verified by any neutral party? This seems like Jai Hind level propaganda tbh
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
They counted all the things that were sent to distract their defenses as positive hits. A cheap drone swarm of designed waste air-defense missiles counts as like 200 straight kills for them even though the swarm was successful in doing exactly what it was trying to do. A missile that has a warhead and 6 decoys counts as 6-7 kills for them depending on whether the warhead itself was hit. So if they calculate like this, 99% is somewhat believable.
In the longer-term, the global geo-economic and geo-political balances are moving against Israel eg.
1. As per the latest surveys, youth in the USA sympathise with the Palestinians, whereas the old support Israel
2. Currently the G7 account for 40% of global GDP, half of which is the USA. PWC forecast that by 2050, these numbers will drop in half.
3. The Muslim world growing from 2 billion to 3 billion people
4. China being 2x the US economy by 2030, as per the IMF forecast
You get the idea
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Because Israel has nuclear weapons, it isn't realistic for Israel to be wiped out.
But it is possible for Israel to become a small, isolated and impoverished state under siege - if Israel continues being a nasty colonial state in Gaza and the West Bank.
In retrospect, we can see that the refounding of Israel in 1947 was a huge historical mistake. Israel was supposed to be a homeland safe for the Jews. But Israel could only come into existence through war and by taking the land and homes of the existing Palestinian inhabitants, many of whom are still living in refugee camps in Gaza and the West Bank. So Israel is surrounded by unfriendly or hostile borders.
If Israel acted more rationally, they would understand that true security doesn't come from having the largest military and beating on your neighbours. It comes from having good relations with your neighbours. Particularly since the long-term trends are against an Israel which relies on the US.
But for that to happen, I see a minimum requirement for Israel to end the military occupation of Gaza and the West Bank, and also the removal of 500,000 Jewish colonists from the West Bank.
And all that happens, when Israel act according to UN's 1967 accord & should behave like obedient child of Uncle SAM. Or otherwise same will continue & it will remain in isolation despite US/EU support.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
China doesn’t want open war with the US. It frankly couldn’t care less about American feelings at this point. The only reason it holds back is to avoid triggering open war.
If China sells Iran weapons during peace time, America has zero right to do anything more than complain. If China supplies Iran weapons when it is in an open war with America, America would have zero power to do much against China as not even they are stupid or crazy enough to get into a 3 front war.
I suspect they even miscount the number of BM launches. US claim 50% failure rate of BM launch, how do they know those failed to launch in the first place? Unless they took off and did a wild coyote and hit the ground or something, how're they able to tell there was a BM failed to launch?
If we believe them on this, does it mean in actually only 50 or so Iranian BM actually flew towards Israel? And 7 got through among 50?
Now I even have doubts about the 50 missiles supposed to have flown, are we sure they weren't counting decoys?
US bragging about 50% failure rate actually bring more questions about their interception figure
It is confirmed now that between 4 and 7 SM-3 were fired by USN destroyers for the first time in combat, as stated on USNI News:
According to missile analyst Chris Carlson, the fact the Navy used SM-3s points to the likelihood the Iranians used some of its medium-range ballistic missiles with a range of up to 1,800 miles. This matches up with claims that MRBMs like the Kheybar-Shekan have been fired at Israel.
Alleged video recording of an exoatmospheric kill scored by SM-3:
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