Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)
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But China's best response is to just continue growing and developing, as the power differential keeps moving in China's favour.
The latest IMF estimates have the Chinese economy (when measured in actual output of goods and services via PPP) is continuing to grow its lead over the USA in over 2023-2024, to over 40% larger. Their projection is that by 2030, China will be 82% larger than the US. That is almost twice the size. Over time, that translates in military, economic, technological and political power.
So China can handle and live with the current situation.
For example, even with Japan rearming, my best guess is that in the 2030s, China will be able to impose an A2AD umbrella over Japan and impose a maritime blockade, despite anything the US and Japan can do. That will deter Japan in many ways.
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NB. If we have a situation where China has an economy twice the size of the USA, it means the US will likely have to shift all its attention and resources to the Pacific, in order to even try balancing China.
So where does that leave Israel?
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Now that I think about it, maybe Iran's constant measured behavior toward Israel and US dumb provocations also has something to do with China (and Russia), and not only with internal social potential problems, division, and economic matters within Iran itself, as well as Iran growing more and more in contrast to Israel, in all areas, so it making it make sense to be more strategic and think in the future terms.
For China, it makes more sense for the US to keep constant resources and focus engaged in the Middle East with Iranian 'proxies', instead of Iran itself just acting and slapping all of their bases and Israel out of existence, then the US realizing that it has nothing to do there anymore, as it is very inefficient, if downright impossible, for them to wage actual war with Iran, and rerouting everything to Russia and China again instead.
Maybe China and Russia told Iran to be measured. For them, the US should have constant pressures there to deal with, on a different part of the world altogether, which is allowing Russia more breathing space in Ukraine, and China to grow in peace for the next few critical years preparing for their conflict over Taiwan and divided attention of the US there once the conflict finally starts. They wouldn't want all of the US infrastructure and ships there being blown there in the short term. They want the US to constantly have to bleed resources there, have false hope.
For China, it makes more sense for the US to keep constant resources and focus engaged in the Middle East with Iranian 'proxies', instead of Iran itself just acting and slapping all of their bases and Israel out of existence, then the US realizing that it has nothing to do there anymore, as it is very inefficient, if downright impossible, for them to wage actual war with Iran, and rerouting everything to Russia and China again instead.
Maybe China and Russia told Iran to be measured. For them, the US should have constant pressures there to deal with, on a different part of the world altogether, which is allowing Russia more breathing space in Ukraine, and China to grow in peace for the next few critical years preparing for their conflict over Taiwan and divided attention of the US there once the conflict finally starts. They wouldn't want all of the US infrastructure and ships there being blown there in the short term. They want the US to constantly have to bleed resources there, have false hope.
What are the chances of Iran having purchased the Su-57?
If this is accurate, Israel's Reputation in the international community has been destroyed. The Iranian strike has successfully broken the Invincibility barrier.
US asked the same from Pakistan, so India can save face post Operation Swift Retort…
Too early to predict, first they are eyeing on SU35s induction.
It is not available for export yet. Although the Russians have been trying to get interested parties to order some.
I think it will only be exported after the Su-57M is developed and serial production has been ongoing for a while.
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It's what it earned from winning WWII.
These sanctions on China only caused Chinese tech innovation to ignite into a previously unseen pace, far outstripping the speed at which the entire West can hope to match.
The sanctions on Russia caused the Russian economy to move away from Euros and Dollars and integrate into the Chinese economy, finding alternate ways, domestic and through China, to make everything it needs. Russia is growing much faster than the EU now and its weapons production has been brought back to life from torpor. This is a strengthening of Russia in the worst, most uncontrollable way for the West.
There is very little that the US/West can do other than dance around and make noise when competing with China. Focus or no focus, China simply grows too fast and innovates too much for the West to hold on and the high tech innovations are just starting to snowball.
China has already won the trade war and is winning the tech war; that's already happening.
China doesn't play the same game; we do what we do best. China is best at innovation; that's something the US has no good options to respond with and that's why the US is stuck with sending goons to bribe people and starting color revolutions/drafting sanctions with its henchmen. If they could win by innovation, that's everyone's preferred method.