Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)
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That's their standard.
The US and the West always hide the real losses, they obscure damage assessments and military censorship.
When an attack occurs in Ukraine with Russia claiming the death of NATO generals involved, days or weeks later a NATO general dies falling from the mountain or murdered by his own dog or some other unusual death.
In fact, this has been common since the Cold War era. When the enemy like China in the Korean War used innovative military tactics and the US starts to lose a battle, they talk about "human waves" saying that they killed 10 for one to die.
It's the same narrative that Israel and Ukraine copy. There is no greater copium than that.
plawolf
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The point is that this attack wasn’t really designed to do real damage, but to send a message. The Israelis had ample advanced warning of the incoming attack. The Ballistic missiles were split into two waves and many targets across the country, military targets at that, which should be the most well protected in Israel. The fact any got through is a failure for Israel, because it proves that Iran can punch through its much vaunted defences despite not trying particularly hard, and Iran would have gathered invaluable intel on how Israel and America assets perform against the full spectrum of threat types and are feverishly looking for holes and weaknesses to exploit. And all that’s only at the most insignificant tactical level.
On the strategic level this was a colossal failure for Israel because it gift wrapped the prefect pretext for Iran to attack Israel directly without inflicting the wrath of the world. If anything, most of the world is secretly grateful that Iran pulled its punches and are putting every ounce of diplomatic pressure they can on Israel to just take the L and call it quits. Iran has managed to establish a new equilibrium where it gets to hit Israel back directly where they live for Israeli attacks on Iranian interests abroad. That’s frankly unimaginable even 6 months ago and is basically a done deal that Israel cannot roll back. The only way it can un-ring that bell is if it hits Iran with everything it’s got and in doing so start a massive regional near-peer war.
If Israel hits back at Iran and a whole new war breaks out, everyone who isn’t a die hard Zionist will finger Israel as the side responsible. That means not only will there be no sanctions on Iran, the likes of Russia and China will actively supply Iran with material and weapons for its ‘legitimate self defence’ citing the Ukraine precedent should anyone raise and questions. China for one would be wishing on every star it can see that Israel and America are so stupid, as it would allow them to bleed America of its high-end weapons inventory and potentially even materially weaken the USN should America jump directly into the shooting war.
The EU would be history as they already kissed goodbye to their primary source of oil and gas from Russia. Their already on life support industrial base will basically be wiped out by this.
This is why America, if it’s got any marbles left, will need to rein Israel in at all costs. But this is an election year, with a vegetable puppet at the helm, so all bets are off.
IMO the Israeli retaliation will likely be to target oil facilities plus nuclear facilities plus drone and missile factories. Netanyahu absolutely wants a war with Iran to save himself and no amount of Iranian restraint will prevent it.
I guess the Israeli attack will happen at night too probably today or tomorrow.
I would be surprised if Iran hasn't contacted the Russians already to urgently transfer S-400 defence systems to Iran (in secret ofcourse) which could be temporarily manned by Russian crews. it would be quite ungrateful of the Russians if they refused to equip Iran with the S-400 but I wouldn't put it past them. Previously whenever countries in the region (eg: Syria) wanted to buy airdefence from Russia, Russia would weasel out of selling such systems to please Israel.
If the tables were completely flipped & the US was on Iran's side & Israel launched a similar attack then sure Iran/US would intercept most of the missiles though probably not as much as Israeli interception.
The interception was more of a showcase of advancements in US capabilities than that of Israel. Heck this engagement was more of an engagement between Iran vs the US than it was Iran vs Israel. To be honest I think without American early warning and active participation Israeli military targets would have been hit much harder.
Breaking - Hebrew Channel 14: The cabinet decided to attack Iran tonight..