Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

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antiterror13 said:
Where did you get the figures of $2B and $10M to $50M ?
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Just my estimates.

Israel alone spend $1-1.13 Billion. The US, UK, Jordan and most likely others have also spend munitions. AAM and SAM are expensive.

Several years ago the head of the IRGC ASF said that their missiles cost roughly 100000 a piece.

Shaheds cost 20k

Pavehs around the same ballpark.

My estimate is $20 million while I've seen a plausible figure as low as $10 million to a reputable source claiming $35 million
 
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Such interception is possible when defending side (the most sophisticated in the wrold) has 2 weeks to prepare for it where it has already been on alert for months and have been moving assets there for a while while already having plenty of assets there. Israel/US are not Ukraine nor Iran is Russia.
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2 weeks to prepare might mean fuck all if you don't have production to stock for it. Hizbollah has already shown that Israeli air defenses are operating at the edge of their capabilities and stocks. The fact that there are several analyst commenting that this exceeded Israel's worst case scenario should be another hint.
 
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The biggest loser in this, in addition to Israel ( + US at lesser degree) is Jordan(+ lesser degree the Gulf Countries)

They don't help Gaza but they are the first to defend Israel. Jordanian people are not stupid and can see that something fishy is going on
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Even if this attack didn't cause major damage to Israel, it has obviously increased local support of Iran in the region. Whereas the Jordanian royalty has implicated itself into potentially it's own demise.
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With other missiles being fired at the drones, ballistic missiles and cruise missiles, the total cost of expenditure reaches the $2 Billion mark while Iran expended anywhere between $10 million and $35 million.

An expenditure ratio of anywhere between 50 to 200!

Not sustainable at all!
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Here is an interesting answer. This retired military officer analyzed the cost of Iranian UAV's navigation system, and if they choose to purchase components on Taobao, the cost can be controlled at 10000 RMB. The cost of the entire cruise missile can be controlled within 500000 RMB
 
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_killuminati_ said:
Even if this attack didn't cause major damage to Israel, it has obviously increased local support of Iran in the region. Whereas the Jordanian royalty has implicated itself into potentially it's own demise.
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Overbom said:
The biggest loser in this, in addition to Israel ( + US at lesser degree) is Jordan.

They don't help Gaza but they are the first to defend Jordan (+ lesser degree the Gulf Countries). Jordanian people are not stupid and can see that something fishy is going on
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Just last week or so the pro-Iran militias were openly discussing of creating a 12000 men strong militia in Jordan. The king has now given them an alibi to do so.

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Here is an interesting answer. This retired military officer analyzed the cost of Iranian UAV's navigation system, and if they choose to purchase components on Taobao, the cost can be controlled at 10000 RMB. The cost of the entire cruise missile can be controlled within 500000 RMB
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I believe China is able to bring the cost down to less than $7000 but not Iran. Still, $50k for a 1400km range cruise missile is very cheap.
 
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aahyan said:
Despite Israel has 4 layers of BMD "Ballistic Missile Defence" as part of its homeland defense system. This includes Sling, Arrow, Patriot II, C-Dome, Iron Done and Iron Beam.


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The strike has only confirmed one thing that Israel is not invincible, it can be badly crushed if attacked properly.
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Israel/US may try to present Iran's attack as a failure.

Good. Let them. Give Israel an off-ramp. Iran sent the message it wanted and struck the relevant air force base (4+ times).
 
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phrozenflame said:
Such interception is possible when defending side (the most sophisticated in the wrold) has 2 weeks to prepare for it where it has already been on alert for months and have been moving assets there for a while while already having plenty of assets there. Israel/US are not Ukraine nor Iran is Russia. Israeli airspace at this point in time is probably the best defended one in the world.

Iran could have used BMs from Hezbollah to saturate ABM too, but i think that would've given Israel a reason to involve Lebenon, so a limited participation happened from that front.

Some people are missing the whole objective of the strike. It was calibrated as a face-saving move from Iran and to avoid Netanyahu's trap to expand the conflict to reel in US. All comms from US point to US wanting this topic to be closed.

US's left wing is absolutely in no mood for another US middle eastern war on behalf of Israel and especially Netanyahu.

Biden knows this.
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Personally speaking, I think this might be the end of the rope for Netanyahu.

The Iranians made sure to say that this was in retaliation to the consulate attack. The Israeli public is not going to forget this, as the attack was almost certainly signed off by Netanyahu.
 
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