Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

Sinnavuuty

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9,500 Hamas Rockets Rain on Israel❗ Mayor of Sderot Terrified to Evacuate 60 Percent of Residents
The number is already above 12,000 rockets launched since October 7, 2023:
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Israel says some 12,000 rockets have been fired from Gaza starting on Oct. 7. They have killed 15 people in Israel.
This is until December 27, 2023. This count of 9,500 rockets launched was until November 9, 2023.
 

Sinnavuuty

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Excellent analysis of Israeli casualties. "Ashkelon Hospital alone reported 1900 casualties last week".

IDF hides casualties but the hospitals keep their own tallies. Some organizations in Israel, like Haaretz media, went to each hospital to find the figures which are turning out to be quite shocking!

Edit: 1900 total. Another hospital reported 1000, another 700. Dozens of other hospitals where casualties are arriving.

I guess we're looking at a number ~1000/hospital. Rough estimate: +24,000?

Report also says casualties arriving in helicopters, indicating a) logistics lines are not stable, and/or b) ambulance vehicles are overwhelmed.
Did this Haaretz survey differentiate between combatants and civilians?

I say this because Israel declared days ago that since the start of the conflict, more than 13,400 wounded have been evacuated to hospitals.

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This number is basically 10x that reported by Israel.
 

gelgoog

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Footage of US patriot battery intercepting Iranian proxies launched TBMs in Iraq. Out of 20 launched 18 was shot down with two hitting their target with reports of wounded US service members.
Hezbollah and the Houtis have better ballistic missiles than the militias in Iraq.
At best it would be the Zelzal rocket. But thus far I haven't seen those militias fire anything larger than a Grad rocket. It would be nice seeing some confirmation of the weapons used in this attack.

As usual Patriot proves itself to be useless against even crude missiles like these. They just saturate the battery and that's it.
 

Biscuits

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Hezbollah and the Houtis have better ballistic missiles than the militias in Iraq.
At best it would be the Zelzal rocket. But thus far I haven't seen those militias fire anything larger than a Grad rocket. It would be nice seeing some confirmation of the weapons used in this attack.

As usual Patriot proves itself to be useless against even crude missiles like these. They just saturate the battery and that's it.
I thought it was confirmed they rolled up a Grad very close to the airbase and then just spammed it. Like the ukarinains were doing at belgorod.
 

Sinnavuuty

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Hamas only has ~24,000 members to begin with. That number includes the non-combatants: politicians, officers, general workers, etc.

Judging by the daily releases of Hamas attacks on IDF which have remained as consistent on day 100 as Day 1 (if not more), this can only mean one of two things:
  1. A small band of fighters are doing all the attacks (unlikely).
  2. Hamas hasn't suffered major casualties.
Here is a partial answer to your questions:
US intelligence officials believe that despite the massive bombing and ground invasion of the Gaza Strip, the Israel Defense Force has so far only managed to kill around 20-30% of Hamas fighters, further believing that Hamas still it has enough ammunition, from rockets to mortars, to continue launching barrage-style attacks in southern and central Israel for several more months.
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Biscuits

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Here is a partial answer to your questions:
US intelligence officials believe that despite the massive bombing and ground invasion of the Gaza Strip, the Israel Defense Force has so far only managed to kill around 20-30% of Hamas fighters, further believing that Hamas still it has enough ammunition, from rockets to mortars, to continue launching barrage-style attacks in southern and central Israel for several more months.
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Either Hamas is somehow drafting in a lot more people, or something is wrong with those figures. Unrecoverable losses of 20-30% would mean 1-2x times as many wounded. There would be hardly anyone left.

More likely 20-30% casualties total.
 
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