Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

Serb

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This article reports that the Eurasian rail frieght volume has dwindled due to European sanctions which include restrictions on freight trains coming from Russia and Belarus; increased volume in freight to Russia due to sanctions, but the trains do not go beyond Russia.
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I think those railways weren't profitable at all some time ago, but did eventually become profitable a few years ago, like in the late 2010s. If they lost some share to the Ukraine war, it doesn't matter.

Anyways, now with this crisis in the Red Sea, the Europeans will have no other choice but to suck it up. Those Eurasian rails are currently the most optimal way for them to transport goods due to enormous insurance premiums/freight rates/availability of shipping - down there.

Look at what happened during the Suez Canal Crisis 2021 - And this crisis in the Red Sea overall will probably last much longer, possibly even for years as long as the wider regional war persists at least.


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solarz

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I think those railways weren't profitable at all some time ago, but did eventually become profitable a few years ago, like in the late 2010s. If they lost some share to the Ukraine war, it doesn't matter.

Anyways, now with this crisis in the Red Sea, the Europeans will have no other choice but to suck it up. Those Eurasian rails are currently the most optimal way for them to transport goods due to enormous insurance premiums/freight rates/availability of shipping - down there.

Look at what happened during the Suez Canal Crisis 2021 - And this crisis in the Red Sea overall will probably last even longer, possibly even for years as long as the wider regional war persists at least..


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I remember arguing a few years back on this forum with posters who claimed rail-based shipping will never be competitive with sea based shipping. LOL
 

pokepara

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I think those railways weren't profitable at all some time ago, but did eventually become profitable a few years ago, like in the late 2010s. If they lost some share to the Ukraine war, it doesn't matter.

Anyways, now with this crisis in the Red Sea, the Europeans will have no other choice but to suck it up. Those Eurasian rails are currently the most optimal way for them to transport goods due to enormous insurance premiums/freight rates/availability of shipping - down there.

Look at what happened during the Suez Canal Crisis 2021 - And this crisis in the Red Sea overall will probably last much longer, possibly even for years as long as the wider regional war persists at least.


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Evaluating what is profitable is complex. If you're running railways as a private venture, you could say the RoI is too low compared to investing in something else, even though there are great overall savings in efficiency, connectivity, pollution reduction, congestion, etcetc. If you're the government and you benefit from what would otherwise be considered "externalities", the profit calculation changes drastically. I think it's quite likely that even without this crisis in the Middle-East/West Asia, China's investment in rail would likely still be a net asset.
 

_killuminati_

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I remember arguing a few years back on this forum with posters who claimed rail-based shipping will never be competitive with sea based shipping. LOL
The article I posted says that rail freight is only really lucrative for premium items, such as transporting vehicles.
 

_killuminati_

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Unarmed Palestinians surprise an IDF patrol in Gaza, pelt stones and flee (possibly an old video)

Al-Quds Brigade sniper

Drone strike on Israel-linked ship off the coast of India. Report says the drone was launched from Iran, but animation shows launched from Yemen.
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Ambrey, a maritime security firm, says the “Liberia-flagged chemical/products tanker… was Israel-affiliated” and had been on its way from Saudi Arabia to India.

A large group of IDF infantry fail to secure a building, can be seen fleeing the stairwell; call in a Merkava to shell the building.

IDF chopper rushes to area hit by artillery strikes of al-Quds Brigade (indicating casualties)
 

_killuminati_

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Israel hacks Palestinian drone

Merkava gunner shot by RPG

al-Qassam sniper eliminates IDF soldier sitting in window. Rocket attacks on IDF units camping in buildings. @6:20 equipment captured from IDF. The attack on this building is reported to have killed 48 IDF soldiers

Hamas setting up IED's

Looks like IDF has finally decided to step on the ground and enter into buildings instead of rolling around in tanks.
 

Serb

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Holding around a quarter of Gaza, and even that territory isn't under stable control right now. And money and equipment for that occupation come from the outside (US).

Snipers popping are all around the rubble they created killing a bunch of officers left and right.

Now Israel killed the Iranian top general in Syria, giving Iran an excuse to move against them harder.

So far Shia militias in Iraq and Syria only tried to blow up some oil fields in Israel with no further involvement,

But now they will be more heavily involved. Israel made a mistake to provoke Iran which acted relatively mild so far.

Iran can just send its own soldiers and equipment masked as Iraq Shia militias to Syria and attack from the ground easily.

Israel having this much trouble, without even Hezbollah, and other actors going all out yet. Nobody would've thought this.

And even if they could hypothetically be about to clear all the tunnels in Gaza and kill Hamas leaders in Qatar,

Iran, Hezbollah, Houthis, and Shia paramilitaries in Iraq and Syria wouldn't allow that to happen and open up their fronts more.

Israel has a very low chance of winning this war without the US getting actively involved, and even then chances are also low.

Iran and other actors see that so they see no point in attacking Israel any harder when it's shooting their side in the foot.

It seems to me that Iran and the US are doing escalation management here and have a silent agreement to not help either side all out.

All this civilian massacring is just creating more Hamas soldiers and turning the world's attention against them.

Israel managed to get the entire Muslim World, post-colonial Global South, to a degree, against them and the US, at the same time.

Israel should be rewarded later in the new world architecture by China and Russia as dealing more damage to the US than them both tbh.

But, Israel doesn't give a damn. They know that after the US collapses they would lose Palestine certainly, so why not try to win something while the US is still there or existing?
 
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