The Palestinians are certainly putting in the work and look far more composed than the majority of the Syrian "rebels"
Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)
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We see these large fireballs after they fire the RPGs but are they really because of a strike or the APS intercepting the projectile? Is there any reliable way to identify?
Hard to tell and I'm guessing they aren't going to stick around to film the aftermath with israeli drones and other assets around trying to spot them.
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That's over a dozen vehicles targeted. Almost all of them from point-blank range
Also noticed that there is minimal (dismounted) infantry accompanying Israeli tanks
Unless I am mistaken, weren't there some news that their APS don't work on very close range?
That is true and some of those launches seems to be hits though as you can see the fireball enveloping the vehicle itself and even pieces flying off.
I’ve heard of that but these types of informations are hard to confirm unless some solid proof surfaces. Although, there are some videos where we can see the actual hits, so there are losses for sure.
Israeli aircraft destroyed the main weapons developer Hamas. The press service of the Israeli army reported the liquidation in the Gaza Strip of the head of the Hamas arms and industry department, Mohsen Abu Zina. Leading Hamas weapons developer Mohsin Abu Zin was killed by an Israeli precision-guided bomb. During the operation in the Gaza Strip, the Israeli army has already discovered a large number of Hamas weapons. It is worth noting that although Hamas’s weapons are homemade, they really pose a threat to Israeli military equipment. Reportedly, 400 suicide vests, 760 grenade launchers, and 106 rockets and shells were found. In addition, the Israeli military discovered almost 1.5 thousand grenades, as well as 375 firearms.
Abu Ubaida: We documented the destruction of 136 Israeli military vehicles
Abu Ubaida, the military spokesman for the Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades, said that they documented the complete or partial destruction of “136 Israeli military vehicles and their removal from service” by the forces that Israel sent for a ground incursion into the besieged Gaza Strip.
He stressed - in a video speech - that Israel had avoided full engagement with the resistance, noting that the Al-Qassam Brigades would continue to "fight and confront the aggression in all the land axes north, northwest, and south of Gaza."
The military spokesman for the Al-Qassam Brigades added that despite the brutality of the massacres and the Israeli war targeting civilians in Gaza, “we strike the Israeli forces, destroy vehicles, and inflict deaths and injuries,” while “sniper weapons continue to target occupation soldiers and artillery weapons destroy fortifications.”
Abu Ubaida explained the details of the battle on the ground, and said, “We maneuver with the elite forces of our mujahideen, so we turn around to strike the enemy in his rear lines, and set up ambushes for him and his tanks, and destroy the vehicles from point blank, and from the effective range of anti-armor weapons, individuals, and buildings in which the soldiers are holed up.”
He also addressed the issue of prisoners and detainees, stressing that "the enemy refuses to create conditions for the release of prisoners and thwarted the process of releasing 12 of them," noting that Israel "is obstructing efforts to release detainees and foreigners and endangering their lives."
Al-Qassam spokesman added, "We reiterate that the only path is a comprehensive deal to exchange prisoners completely, or in parts (in categories and stages)."
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He says they destroyed or partialy damaged 136 vehicles, I suppose he is counting every single vehicle that get's targeted towards this 136 count since every vehicle will get at least "partialy damaged" even if there is no penetration. However some of the damaged vehicles are probably getting repaired and sent back to service.
it seems they have very few ATGMs because the vast majority of the shots are with this localy produced RPG.
Abu Ubaida, the military spokesman for the Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades, said that they documented the complete or partial destruction of “136 Israeli military vehicles and their removal from service” by the forces that Israel sent for a ground incursion into the besieged Gaza Strip.
He stressed - in a video speech - that Israel had avoided full engagement with the resistance, noting that the Al-Qassam Brigades would continue to "fight and confront the aggression in all the land axes north, northwest, and south of Gaza."
The military spokesman for the Al-Qassam Brigades added that despite the brutality of the massacres and the Israeli war targeting civilians in Gaza, “we strike the Israeli forces, destroy vehicles, and inflict deaths and injuries,” while “sniper weapons continue to target occupation soldiers and artillery weapons destroy fortifications.”
Abu Ubaida explained the details of the battle on the ground, and said, “We maneuver with the elite forces of our mujahideen, so we turn around to strike the enemy in his rear lines, and set up ambushes for him and his tanks, and destroy the vehicles from point blank, and from the effective range of anti-armor weapons, individuals, and buildings in which the soldiers are holed up.”
He also addressed the issue of prisoners and detainees, stressing that "the enemy refuses to create conditions for the release of prisoners and thwarted the process of releasing 12 of them," noting that Israel "is obstructing efforts to release detainees and foreigners and endangering their lives."
Al-Qassam spokesman added, "We reiterate that the only path is a comprehensive deal to exchange prisoners completely, or in parts (in categories and stages)."
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He says they destroyed or partialy damaged 136 vehicles, I suppose he is counting every single vehicle that get's targeted towards this 136 count since every vehicle will get at least "partialy damaged" even if there is no penetration. However some of the damaged vehicles are probably getting repaired and sent back to service.
For those who can't read Arabic, it says the one at 2:17 they used Konkurs ATGM.
it seems they have very few ATGMs because the vast majority of the shots are with this localy produced RPG.
The effectiveness of these attacks depends on various factors, such as the type of rockets used, the accuracy of the launch, and the tank's defensive systems. The Merkava tank is designed with advanced armor and defensive measures, but it is not impervious to rocket attacks. In some cases, these rockets have caused damage to Merkava tanks, but the extent of the damage can vary. The Israeli Defense Forces have taken measures to improve tank protection, but the outcome of any specific attack would depend on the circumstances.
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