Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)
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Rare moment of humanity inside US deep state. Unfortunately it does mean things are about to go a lot worse for everyone now only genocide supporters are left in charge.
That's an exaggeration to be honest. Lol
There are millions protesting in Muslim world right now. At the very least it is already forcing government to take positions previously did not want to take.
I'm sorry I dont see Arab states led by KSA in the middle east and Egypt in North Africa fighting Israel AT ALL. There have ZERO interests in doing so unlike in the past. Today's Arab world has changed and so has their interests. For one many Arab states now have normal and even friendly relations with Israel. Egypt has a peace treaty with Israel and full recognition of Israel and they have never shown any reason to fight Israel at all after Israel gave them back the Sinai (mind you Israel could have kept it like they did with the Golan heights in Syria) . Egypt will never take the risk of fighting Israel again and damaging her own inner territory while.losing part of her territory just for the Palestinians. I am sorry but Arab countries are not fools. National interests trumps everything else. The most they can do is give out statements of support to Palestinians and condemn Israel. That's it. In fact not even Ira will fight Israel directly. Despote all their rhetoric they Islamic Republic has never laid any hands directly or gone to war with Israel since her founding half a century ago. The most they have done is use militias proxy groups to launch some rockets(and to be honest we all know these militias groups pose no real credible threat to the state of Israel existence. ). At least Arab states actually fought Israel in a full scale war and threatened Israel owns very existence more than once. ISRAEL had to fully mobilise all her resources and manpower to fight off the Arab states war against them. If they had lost then Israel would have seized to exists since Arab countries like Egypt, Syria, KSA, Jordan would have occupied Israel and made Palestine take that territory. I think if Iran is really serious then they too should try and fight Israel the way Arab states once did. Why only pick on the Arabs? Why should they put their countries interests and resources at harm over Palestinians? I see absolutely no reason why they should.
Israel's own contradictory evidence is torn apart in this report from Sky news:
As I said before, there is a massive misinformation campaign by Israel to create enough doubt in the 'West' for their policy of ethnic cleansing to continue. As soon as Israel's contradictory evidence was presented, that is more or less a joke and be dismantled in less than a minute, you suddenly had all the usual suspects take it as a holy grail. Also see Biden's tweets from the last few days, it seems like they outsourced his account to IDF/IOF digital marketing agency.
As I said before, there is a massive misinformation campaign by Israel to create enough doubt in the 'West' for their policy of ethnic cleansing to continue. As soon as Israel's contradictory evidence was presented, that is more or less a joke and be dismantled in less than a minute, you suddenly had all the usual suspects take it as a holy grail. Also see Biden's tweets from the last few days, it seems like they outsourced his account to IDF/IOF digital marketing agency.
You are right that the dictators and kings running these Arab states do not want to fight Israel if they have a choice. These people rather take the safest path to staying in power, which is to take no real action. However, the Arab population have nothing but pure abhorrence for the self-proclaimed Jewish state, and sometimes this feeling of outrage - righteous indignation at perceived injustice - trumps the cold calculus of national interest. We see that everywhere, especially in democracies but even in non-democratic states.
If Israel continues its behaviour of illegally confiscating Palestinian land, retaliating without restraint against civilians, and generally commit atrocities that cannot be justified to Islamic states, there will absolutely come a point where Islamic hostility against Israel reaches a boiling point. When that happens, ambitious leaders in countries surrounding Israel will realise they can use this popular anger to their own advantage. They will be incentivised to adopt policies that hurt Israel, from trade sancitons to sabotage to outright war, because that will become their surest guarantee to staying in power. Either way, if the will of a population for Israel's destruction is strong enough, it will eventually find their way to the government level.
Israel's most logical move is to seek reconciliation with the Islamic world by any means necessary. If they continue down their current self-destructive path, they will eventually find themselves surrounded by nothing but hostile countries. But that means giving up its fundamental Zionist dreams, which the far-right state just will not do.
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Like I've said, not all of them are going in, at least initially.
But at the same time, if you deny there will be fights with the rest of the world outside Palestine, you are already wrong by now. What Iranian proxies are doing is an indisputable act of war.
Paradoxically, while Israel has shown us shocking lack of restraint against the weak Palestinians, it is incredible restraint from Israel itself that prevents war with Iranian proxies and possibly Iran itself.
There is a difference between saying and doing. Deep in their hearts, all muslims view israel, in polite terms, as an occupying force, an abomination that must be removed from their lands, and especially their holiest of sites.
It's similar to how Chinese view Japanese occupation, except the muslim countries didn't have the power to evict the invaders.
Restraint or fear of escalation to regional war that goes beyond Israel means?.