Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

Petrolicious88 said:

Truth eventually comes out.

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By that time, it wouldn't matter. Isn't this the standard playbook of CIA, MOSSAD, any intelligent agencies or terrorist organizations. Does the white powder that used by Collin Powell to initiate the second Gulf war and invasion of Iraq matters.

Same thing with killing of Al Jazeera journalist Shireen Abu Akleh, first the Israeli finger-pointing at Palestinians as the perpetrator, then accused there were Palestinian fighters firing, then claimed it is a mistake of identification, and at last it is ruled that none of above is true. Israeli soldiers just shot these journalists without cause or justification.

Petrolicious88 said:

Truth eventually comes out.

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As mentioned, it won't matter at that point. People would have just moved on justifying the ethnic cleansing and those who pushed the narrative will pretend they didn't partake in any of it. There might no even be a Gaza at that point, so it matter little.

When the US bombed a hospital in Afghanistan they did the exact same thing, first they blamed the taliban, then they said it was misfire by taliban weapons, then they said they did but it was an accident and by the time they finally admited they bombed the hospital on purpose, no one cared.


Israel just hit buildings near another hospital in Gaza with JDAMs. Same whistle and the building doesn't collapse either.

Guys … I think some here need to calm down and stick to facts and as long nothing is proven then no theory should be presented as facts. Therefore similar to the Ukraine war thread, we should not turn this into a political bashing thread based on bias, political opinion and prejudice.

tankphobia said:

I think the most fundamental question is, where does the 500 casualty figure actually originate from and is it credible? That parking lot does not look like it would fit the amount of people, nor would they really be able to clear 500 bodies in such a small amount of time to just leave a bunch of burnt cars behind.

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indeed, but even more so, if it was indeed a JDAM as claimed by some pro-Palestinian posts, where is the impact crater? Has anyone compared this alleged impact location with a JDAM crater?

Deino said:

indeed, but even more so, if it was indeed a JDAM as claimed by some pro-Palestinian posts, where is the impact crater? Has anyone compared this alleged impact location with a JDAM crater?

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As seen with @birdlikefood post


There is no necessity for a large crater, but now we all tap in the dark on who did it and both sides have plausible arguments.

And now this:

If people in the West could believe that Russia bombed its own pipeline then they will believe any lie that Israel and US govt spreads here.

A smart minority will know the truth, just as they know who really bombed NS2. But sadly most people, at least in the West, are beyond reason.

KYli said:

By that time, it wouldn't matter. Isn't this the standard playbook of CIA, MOSSAD, any intelligent agencies or terrorist organizations. Does the white powder that used by Collin Powell to initiate the second Gulf war and invasion of Iraq matters.

Same thing with killing of Al Jazeera journalist Shireen Abu Akleh, first the Israeli finger-pointing at Palestinians as the perpetrator, then accused there were Palestinian fighters firing, then claimed it is a mistake of identification, and at last it is ruled that none of above is true. Israeli soldiers just shot these journalists without cause or justification.

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It matters. If Israel did it, that’s not surprising given that’s their standard MO in Gaza.

But if Hamas did it. That’s worse than being stabbed by Israel a thousand times over. Cause what kind of government would kill their own people. So yea it really matters.

mossen said:

If people in the West could believe that Russia bombed its own pipeline then they will believe any lie that Israel and US govt spreads here.

A smart minority will know the truth, just as they know who really bombed NS2. But sadly most people, at least in the West, are beyond reason.

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Actually only 39% of people in the U.S. support Israel (based on one CNBC poll). Most are sympathetic towards the Palestinian cause and likely believe Israel bombed the hospital.

Of the recent attack near the Al-Quds hospital, a video was recorded of the Israeli jet droping flares after launching a JDAM. It looks oddly familiar to some of the "rocket breaking up" footage being pushed by the IDF



Also, IDF is extending the area to be cleared from the border with Lebanon

Petrolicious88 said:

It matters. If Israel did it, that’s not surprising given that’s their standard MO in Gaza.

But if Hamas did it. That’s worse than being stabbed by Israel a thousand times over. Cause what kind of government would kill their own people. So yea it really matters.

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If Hamas did it, then it is a misfire as claimed by Israel. Ukraine has multiple misfires that killed many of its people. So by your logic, Ukraine should be condemned or even overthrown.

Not to condone of Hamas or its actions, but you can't just apply rule on entity but not another. If Hamas' misfire and killed many of its people, it is no worse than Ukraine's misfire that killed its people. Don't play double standard and make one's crime more than other just because of your political view.