Israel attacks Gaza Strip

In the short-term that is true. But at the same time Israel would also accept a ceasefire if the peacekeeping force was ready to be deployed, regardless of whether Hezbollah was destroyed or not.

For Hezbollah to win long-term, it needs to ensure that a peacekeeping force is not deployed with a mission to disarm it. How they can make that happen I'm not sure. So unless this turns into a regional war with more countries getting sucked in, they're in a spot of bother in the long-run.

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Well did the Isreali occupation of the southern lebanese put a end to the Hizbollah? It may force it play cool, but as a political and sosial influencer it will remain. The only way Hezbollah could be terminated is the cutting the support to it. And I'm not talking about the support form Iran or Syria, but the support form the local population, shiiahs of Lebanon. And unlike Israel might think, bombing the crap out of them isen't cutting the support, it will only strenghten it.
Only way to fight succesfully against terrorism is to improve the living standarts of the people that supports it. As you see if you have nothnig, you got nothnig to loose...

Gollevainen said:

Only way to fight succesfully against terrorism is to improve the living standarts of the people that supports it. As you see if you have nothnig, you got nothnig to loose...

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Well the above statement is not entirely accurate. Citizens of Israel possess high standards of living, but that is not an incentive for Israel to stop its terrorist activities in Lebanon.

To reclaim 2 kidnapped teenage soldiers of its army, Israel has directly killed 700 children, women and men. Those 700 people did not kidnap those 2 soldiers. It is also unlikely that Israel will reimburse $2 billion to Lebanon for the damages that it has inflicted. Israel is only behaving what may be termed as a "bully".

Israel forwards an alibi that Hezbollah uses human-shields. But there is no justification that those shields must be destroyed to get to Hesbollah.
Israel has violated every law in the UN charter namely :

a) No respect for the airspace of a soveriegn country.
b) Invading a soveriegn country without provocation
c) Killing innocent civillians en masse

Although Hezbollah controlled south Lebanon, the fact remains that it was the territory of a soveriegn nation. These laws are sacrosanct and it is their adherence alone that distinguishes nations from invaders.

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The actions of Israel cannot be described as "brave". They are infact cowardly. Israel possesses F-16 Sufa jets with precision laser and satellite guided munitions. Hezbolla has only AK-47 rifles and unguided rockets which are either the Katyusha from Russia or Iran.

Infact militarily, Hezbollah is more resourceful and has gained global respect for its military operations than the military of Israel.

Hesbollah is indeed a terrorist organization. But Israel may also be described similarly.

Well the above statement is not entirely accurate. Citizens of Israel possess high standards of living, but that is not an incentive for Israel to stop its terrorist activities in Lebanon.

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I ment normal strereotypic terrorism, Israel is waging war, which is as horrible as terrorism, but still different thing. But lets not go too deep to the conflicts political aspects....

Indianfighter said:

To reclaim 2 kidnapped teenage soldiers of its army, Israel has directly killed 700 children, women and men. Those 700 people did not kidnap those 2 soldiers. It is also unlikely that Israel will reimburse $2 billion to Lebanon for the damages that it has inflicted. Israel is only behaving what may be termed as a "bully".

Israel forwards an alibi that Hezbollah uses human-shields. But there is no justification that those shields must be destroyed to get to Hesbollah.
Israel has violated every law in the UN charter namely :

a) No respect for the airspace of a soveriegn country.
b) Invading a soveriegn country without provocation
c) Killing innocent civillians en masse

Although Hezbollah controlled south Lebanon, the fact remains that it was the territory of a soveriegn nation. These laws are sacrosanct and it is their adherence alone that distinguishes nations from invaders.

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Mate I may sound biased but what you need is a little reality… World is not only black or white place; there are much of grey areas in between…
Kidnapping of the soldiers was joust trigger, Israel started this because constant rocket assault on there soil from Lebanese territory.

As for UN charter violation’s you would expect that sovereign nation has complete control over there territory and control over armed groups that are operating on there territory… Lebanese government has neither, there are basically hostages to Hezbollah and they have no control in Hezbollah controlled areas in Lebanon…

So there is no sovereign territory, there were constant provocations and sorry but Hezbollah is the one that is endangering Lebanese civilian population whit constant usage of civilian areas for attacks on Israel soil… If you would bother to look at Geneva Convention you would see that Israeli attacks are completely legitimate… When you use protected/civilian areas for military purposes they become legitimate targets.

While I don’t like current Israeli actions I don’t like Hezbollah actions even more because they are the one that are using civilians for there one agenda… To me they are joust unscrupulous, cowardly terrorist group without any regard for Lebanese civilians and no regard for nothing but there one agenda…

isthvan said:

Mate I may sound biased but what you need is a little reality… World is not only black or white place; there are much of grey areas in between…
Kidnapping of the soldiers was joust trigger, Israel started this because constant rocket assault on there soil from Lebanese territory.

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If i recall correctly there were no rocket attacks before Israel started it's offensive. However Israel on several occasions did cross border and conducted military operations. Hizbollah also violated Israeli airspace some times ago with a survelliance drone. And yes there were cros border firings involving IDF and Hizbollah. But this time Hizb only started rocket attacks after Israeli attacks on Lebense infrastructure.

If you would bother to look at Geneva Convention you would see that Israeli attacks are completely legitimate…

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Attacking on Lebanon is no way near legimate. Is any of the rockets fired form Beirut? And striking deliberatly and directly to against civilian targets, or UN observators just adds the sin list. No matter what basis or reasons Israel might have, it still doesen't give them right to get away murder...

But again we are driffting to the dangerous waters, so attention all crewmens, set a new course

another report of a israeli tank getting hit with a "anti-tank" missile which have killed 2 crewman and destroyed the tank. This is becoming very very interesting and distressing for a ex-tanker like myself. You have to understand I have seen many U.S and British tanks sustain hits in Gulf war 1 WITHOUT the crew getting killed. I myself have been hit by a 115mm sabot from a T-62 and I did not even know I had been hit untill one of my wingman told me so and observed just one big upward flowing scratch mark on the front aspect of the turret were the round glanced up and off the tank......cheers ute

Did anybody see those weird balls on a chain thing around the turrets of the tanks ? apparently those are designed to confuse the missile.

It certainly appears that the Kornet is a VERY effective missile. Their also seems to be some Metis-M missiles being used

(Guys lets keep the politics out of it. So far we've been pretty professional
and certainly don't start insulting each other like other forums so well done ! )

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Did anybody see those weird balls on a chain thing around the turrets of the tanks ? apparently those are designed to confuse the missile.

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i believe it's work like the cage armor , in order for missile to explode before reach the main armor , mostly to cover the gap between the turret and the hull , correct me if im wrong

Kornet? I thought it was Metis.