Israel attacks Gaza Strip

***so I was wondering-How do you keep fighting after that? ***

you get issued another tank or stay with the one that was damaged until its repaired. not that hard to pull/replace the optic box/TIS, replenish the FRH fluid/leaks, pull the power pack/fix problems and get it back to somewhat of a fighting shape about 24 hours out of action. please understand it is a specialised MOS who repairs the tank. We would help a little but for the most part you just rest up and get ready to roll. Its kind of nice to know that you were just hit by another tank and are still alive. it gives you great confidence to go out into the field and fight knowing that even if your hit you still have a good chance of surviving.

the Abrams is a GREAT tank... I loved my big boy. it kept me alive , me and my crew were able to kill a few bad guys in the process of getting our job done and leaving the big sand box...cheers ute

The AT-14 Kornet can penetrate 130 mm more armour than the AT-13 Metis-M.
It also has a much longer range than the Metis-M. The Syrians do have the Kornets, but it's possible Hezbollah may have it too.

Hezbollah small army do a great job than the Iraqi in second gulf war , conventional war against larger and well equip army is suicide .
after the conflict , i bet the Lebanese stock up atgm rather than buy an apc.
is there any report that the labanese army join forces with hezbollah fighting israel

you know I don't put too much credence into open source facts like this system can penetrate 500mm of armour and so forth. I don't think it is indicative of what things can really do.

I was stunned to see 120mm DU rounds shoot through 7ft of sand berms and then go right through the T-72 on the other side. A Bradley's 25mm DU APFSDS penetrating the front slope and turret of a T-72 or the performance of BMP-2 that seemed to be better tank irritants (with its 30mm) than many Iraqi MBT's. Hell, the brits were the worst gunners at the "tank games" in germany but turned out to be some of the best long distance shots in the first and second gulf wars with a recorded holding longest tank kill in history.....cheers ute....remember believe about 1/8 of what you read and all of what you see for real

Ute I was more thinking on the battlefield; ie what do you do when you've just been hit, there's still an enemy tank/s out there and many of your systems have been damaged or destroyed. It's obvious that you can repair the tank after the fight, but I was more wondering what's to stop them from firing another shot considering your tank is in bad shape after being hit?

Well you are always with at least in a group of four tanks. If the tank is on fire and the Halon bottles have discharged you have no choice but to get out of the tank until the halon clears out baring you are not getting shot at in which case you just crack the hatch and try and breath normal air. Hopefully your wing-man is able to kill the OPFOR he will then move to you and provide assistance. If your primary optics go down you can go to secondary sites and do a manual operation of the turret which is very slow and hard to do. The protection of the Abrams is very good and can withstand multi hits from all kinds of stuff. Its just a matter of hunkering down and taking it while you wait for your cohorts to kill the bad guys and then help you. If you think your gonna be burnt alive you get the hell out of the tank and run towards a friendly tank to get into.

If your tank can still move you stay with your platoon until the attack and movement to contact is over. you will always radio your situation to your platoon leader or company commander.
The U.S military is very very good about never leaving a fallen warrior behind and help will not be far behind in any large tank battle

coolieno99 said:

The AT-14 Kornet can penetrate 130 mm more armour than the AT-13 Metis-M.
It also has a much longer range than the Metis-M. The Syrians do have the Kornets, but it's possible Hezbollah may have it too.

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They do have Kornets:
"Hizbullah’s anti-tank weapons are one of the most complex problems facing IDF troops in south Lebanon. In the past few years, Hizbullah has equipped itself with missile systems and other means against Israeli tanks, which are among the most advanced in the world. The terror group possesses “Fagot” and “Cornet” missiles with tandem warheads that can neutralize tank shields and destroy even the IDF’s advanced tanks. "


No wonder the Israeli's have been focused on building the Trophy System (despite the fact that it can be disabled by a spray of 50 cal. fire).

I not trying to downplay the AT-13 Metis-M. In some ways it's more impressive than the AT-14 Kornet. The AT-14 Kornet weighs 27 Kg(60 lb), but the AT-13 Metis-M weighs only 13.8 Kg(30.4 lb).
Basically a 150 lb man firing a 30.4 lb missile stopping a 65 ton tank(Merkava).

Mr Finn

The M1A1 doesnt seem to do well after its hit? Just what kind of logic are you smokin up there, cause I wants some. Most tanks die after they are hit. There have been reports of Abrahams taking up to 10 hits durring the 2 wars in Iraqu. They may have been knocked out as far as combat- but there crews survived. I must say theres a big differnce going into a battle knowing you will survive a hit and knowing when you see another tank beside you hit and knowing everyone is dead and you are next!
Nothing will blow the top off of an Abrahms except a Maverick or Hellfire, so control of the air is what counts the most. Even if you have the best Tank- Abrahams- Challanger- Leopard- Merkava- TU-82? what ever, you will die die die if you dont control the air. Germany had the more superior tanks then the western Allies in WW2 but the allies controlled the air. Lots of tanks dead on the road moving up. I dont mean to be harsh on you.

But, if I were- you should be in an Abrahms. LOL

Basic problem for tanks is terrain in southern Lebanon. Thanks to terrain Israeli tanks lack mobility, and IDF is using standard routes that are familiar to anybody who knows terrain… Basically Hezbollah has perfect ambush opportunity; they prepared for this for long enough, they have modern anti-tank missiles, they know terrain and they are using it to there advantage…

If you know terrain, know enemy routes and know tank weaknesses you can for example target tank in the valleys from higher terrain thus hitting weaker armored top side of tank instead of Merkavas more then well armored front side…

Also if we look at fact that Hezbollah has quite considerable ATGM stockpile and all advantages that terrain offers them I would think that they would score much better against IDF armor…
Few hit tanks, mostly mission kills and we are already hearing story’s about Merkava design flews, severe damage to IDF armor etc. I personally don’t see any other modern MBT that would fare better in given conditions…