Israel attacks Gaza Strip

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Thanks for posting that coolieno99. Only a real soildier like that man or a man like utelore who has tasted actual combat can give accounts like that. I was in the USN for 20 years and the most danger I faced was on the flight deck of a CV....Nobody is shooting at you up there.

Like I've said many,many,many times..War sucks.

As for what will the PRC do about the Hezzbolah rocket attack on a UN position that injuried some PLA troops.....What have they ever done about this type of situation?

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Well finally we see something other than a first world military totally destroying a third world one. Hezbollah does indeed know how to fight, they know how to fight with a mix of conventional and guerilla tactics like the Viet Cong
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I agree. Very similar tactics according to the accounts of the fighting I have read.

And war continues to suck..big time.
 
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FuManChu said:
Now I wonder how much anger there's going to be against Hezbollah for this latest attack, compared to the outburst against Israel.....
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I doubt the PRC would be willing to much against Hezbullah even if they deployed more peacekeepers in the area. The last thing the PRC would want would be getting into a fight with a militant Islamic group in a country thousands of miles away. Plus Hezbullah doesn't have anything against the peacekeepers stationed in Lebanon. It was probably an accident.
 
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crazyinsane105 said:
Plus Hezbullah doesn't have anything against the peacekeepers stationed in Lebanon. It was probably an accident.
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Wasn't that what the Israelis claimed? No one believed them, despite the fact that there was no motive for the IDF to attack the peacekeepers. On the other hand, the UN peacekeepers will be a direct threat to Hezbollah if their numbers are increased so that they can try and disarm the militia.
 
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It said that the post was hit at the same time an Israeli military unit was passing through the village nearby. That was obviously the target. I doubt that Hezbollah would actively try to attack the UN peacekeepers (or as they probably should be called, ass-sitters.) right now. They wouldn't want to turn opinion against them, or add any new enemies against them. Besides, they like to get close to the UN posts to fire rockets because the IDF hesitates to fire on them or does fire and hits the UN peacekeepers. If in were the UN commander I would fire on Hezbollah if they came onto my territory to fire rockets.

France and the US have drafted a ceasefire, let's see how long it takes before anything happens in Lebanon because of it. I think that now that the clock is ticking, Israel might get more agressive.
 
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FuManChu said:
Wasn't that what the Israelis claimed? No one believed them, despite the fact that there was no motive for the IDF to attack the peacekeepers. On the other hand, the UN peacekeepers will be a direct threat to Hezbollah if their numbers are increased so that they can try and disarm the militia.
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What can China do against Hezbollah? Hezbollah is a terrorist organization, so if you accuse them of doing something illegal, that's really not saying much.

And also examine the two cases, there are major differences, but I'd rather not argue.
 
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FuManChu said:
Wasn't that what the Israelis claimed? No one believed them, despite the fact that there was no motive for the IDF to attack the peacekeepers. On the other hand, the UN peacekeepers will be a direct threat to Hezbollah if their numbers are increased so that they can try and disarm the militia.
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Let me tell you the difference between Israel hitting UN observers and Hizbollah hitting em.

When Israel hit UN compound some poor UN observer had been calling Israelis and warning them for past 10 hours or so. Israel had been given all the positions of UN posts and their exact co-ordinates. With all the high tech precision weapons Israel could have easily avoided what happened. If it was hit from air then it makes their claim even more dubious given that the bunker hit was isolated and IDF warplanes get very clear picture fo whats on ground. Did you see footage of IADF plaes hitting katushiya sites?? They can zoom into details of terrain at less than a metter level. They pilot seriously needs to get his eyes checked for one.

Hizbollah uses Katushayas and they have no precision. Hizb is not warned by UN about their positions and given co-ordinates like they do with Israel. Also i was reading an IDF soldier's interview and he said Hizb avoids killing juornalists and UN observers, and directed the journalist to wear the jacket for journalists.
 
coolieno99

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tphuang said:
What can China do against Hezbollah? Hezbollah is a terrorist organization, so if you accuse them of doing something illegal, that's really not saying much....
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Actually only 6 countries (out of 190 nations in the world) recognized Hezbollah as an terrorist organization. 3 countries(U.S., Israel, and Canada) recognized Hezbollah as a terrorist organization in full. 3 countries (U.K., Australia, and Netherlands) recognized Hezbollah as a terrorist organization in part(Hezbollah External Security Organization).
Basically most countries do not viewed Hezbollah as an terrorist organization. Hezbollah only threaten just one country, Israel.
 
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Hey Coolieno, that's good information. Now I would like to know how many countries and international organizations didn't officially recognize Israel?
 
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maglomanic said:
Also i was reading an IDF soldier's interview and he said Hizb avoids killing juornalists and UN observers, and directed the journalist to wear the jacket for journalists.
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That's right. And in the same time IDF (Tsahal) specifically targets any person and vehicle carrying a "PRESS" sign in South Lebanon, along with every ambulance rolling in the area. I wonder how's that according to international laws. Even IRINN reporters wear helmets and bulletproof jackets for the first time in lebanon, since they have nothing to fear from the Hizbullah.
 
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Shahid said:
Hey Coolieno, that's good information. Now I would like to know how many countries and international organizations didn't officially recognize Israel?
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Malaysia is one and yet they willing to sent UN peacekeepers if the cease fire is sign due to it's position as a current chairman of NAM, OIC and ASEAN < very risky without diplomacy relations with israel

August 04, 2006 15:00 PM

M'sia To Send 1,000 Troops For Peacekeeping In Lebanon

KUALA LUMPUR, Aug 4 (Bernama) -- Malaysia will send 1,000 soldiers for peacekeeping in strife-torn Lebanon as soon as a ceasefire is declared, Defence Forces chief Admiral Tan Sri Mohd Anwar Mohd Nor said Friday.

He said the armed forces were awaiting the green light from the government before sending troops to the Middle East country.

"We will send our troops according to the country's requirements. Currently, we are finalising preparations for the departure," he told reporters after attending the induction into the Hall of Fame ceremony for Navy chief Admiral Tan Sri Ilyas Din.

Mohd Anwar said the armed forces had decided to send soldiers from the 4th Brigade mechanised unit.

"We will send armoured vehicles and troops in highly bullet-proof attire to face any consequences," he added.

Mohd Anwar said an observer group would leave for Lebanon soon to gather the latest information on the current situation there.

"It is vital for us to plan our strategies well," he said.

At the special meeting of the Organisation of Islamic Conference (OIC) in Putrajaya yesterday, Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi said Malaysia would send a fully-mechanised battalion on a peacekeeping mission to Lebanon under the United Nations banner. Abdullah is also OIC chairman.

Mohd Anwar said the Malaysian troops were prepared for any eventuality in Lebanon.

"We are likely to face the toughest challenge compared to our experiences in previous peacekeeping missions in Bosnia-Hezergovina, Somalia and recently in Timor Leste.

"The potential dangers will not deter us from doing our job. I am sure our experiences in peacekeeping missions will help us deliver the best," he added.

-- BERNAMA
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Malaysia has rejected an Israeli official's call for dialogue.

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