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Finn McCool

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It seems to me every Middle East war lately results in another enviromental disaster.

UN calls for action after Lebanese slick spreads to Syria by Bogonko Bosire
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NAIROBI (AFP) - The UN Environment Programme (UNEP) called for immediate action after thousands of tonnes of fuel from a bombed Lebanese power plant spread to the Syrian coastline, threatening to unleash an environmental catastrophe.

The Nairobi-based UNEP said the oil slick, caused by the destruction of the Jiyyeh power utility 30 kilometres (18 miles) south of Beirut, had arrived on Syria's coast after affecting up to 80 kilometres (50 miles) of the Lebanese coastline.

"It is nearly three weeks since the bombing of the power plant and the initial satellite imagery unfortunately confirms that the oil spill is of a significant magnitude and spreading," UNEP executive director Achim Steiner said in a statement released here.

"A coordinated response must urgently be allowed to proceed, so that we can limit the immediate environmental damage as well as the longer terms implications for the economy and the Lebanese people," he added.

"Now it has become even more vital to take immediate action. In addition to the humanitarian circumstances, an environmental catastrophe is threatening the Mediterranean region," said Paul Mifsud, UNEP's coordinator for the Mediterranean Action Plan.

"Hostilities must cease to guarantee immediate safe access to the affected area," he said, echoing calls by a section of the international community.

Israeli forces bombed the tanks at the power station on July 14 and July 15, a few days into their offensive on Lebanon which has seen intensive air strikes across the country and a bloody ground incursion in the south.

The leak from one of the tanks, located just 25 metres (80 feet) from the sea, has now stopped but another containing 25,000 tonnes of fuel oil is still on fire and is in danger of exploding. Between 8,000 and 10,000 tonnes of fuel are on the shore and 5,000 on open waters of the Lebanese coastline.

UNEP said it had received a letter from Syria's Minister for Local Administration and Environment Helal Al-Atrash asking it "to send professional companies to control the spilled oil on the shoreline and territorial waters ... and to send experts for the assessment of environmental degradation costs."

According to Oceanographic Centre of Cyprus, 80 percent of the oil remains on and off the Lebanese shoreline, while less than 20 percent has evaporated.

The agency said Algeria, Cyprus, the European Community, France, Italy, Malta, Spain and Syria have responded to appeals and the Malta-based Regional Marine Pollution Emergency Response Center for the Mediterranean Sea (REMPEC) is giving daily advice to the Lebanese environment ministry on how to tackle the the slick.

Over the weekend, Lebanese Environment Minister Yacub Sarraf told AFP between 10,000 and 15,000 tonnes of heavy fuel oil have spilled out into the sea, covering once golden beaches and rocks with black sludge.

Sarraf said cleaning up Lebanon's beaches -- which until the bombardment were major attractions for locals and tourists -- would cost between 45 and 50 million dollars and would not be finished until next summer

Here's the URL of a You Tube video that claims to be footage taken by a squad of Hezbollah soldiers as they assault and capture an Israeli post in 2000. I think it's fake, as they charge up the hilllside without injury, all of the Hezbollah soldiers are wearing camo, helmets and body armour, you never see an Israeli, and the whole situation seems fake because if Hezbollah managed to even get close to overruning a base that big the Israelis would just bomb them and hit them with artillery.

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isthvan

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The helicopters were flown in before sunrise. Hezbullah by no doubt has manpads, but they were still taken by surprise. However, had this same raid been conducted during the middle of the day, I doubt those helicopters would have come back unscathed.

Well while Hezbollah spokesman said that they deliberately lured IDF in ambush in Baalbek it is quite obvious that Israelis caught them whit there pants down… I mean they managed to conduct raid 80 miles deep in Lebanese territory without any loses in equipment or personnel. This was really well executed operation.
Also a Hezbollah spokesman sounds more and more like ex. Iraqi Information Minister Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf ; “ we deliberately lured IDF in ambush, we sunk another IDF ship, we shot down helicopter, we shot down F-16 etc”…
 

FreeAsia2000

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Well anyway regarding the 'tasty fishes' :D


A Hezbollah legislator, Hussein Haj Hassan, told the Al-Arabiya television station that four of those captured by Israel were more than 50 years old.

"I call on the Israeli army to show the world pictures of those captured men," he said.

The Israel Defense Force's chief of staff, General Dan Halutz, said the raid was not to abduct somebody specific or a high-ranking Hezbollah official but rather to prove the Israel Defense Force's ability to strike at will at Hezbollah.

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It also appears that the hospital had previously been evacuated following a
failed raid a few days earlier. no details seem to have been released about that.

There were mixed reports about where the five men were captured, but the hospital was said by Hezbollah sources to be empty, having been evacuated days earlier when Israelis attempted a similar landing.

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crazyinsane105

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isthvan said:
Also a Hezbollah spokesman sounds more and more like ex. Iraqi Information Minister Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf ; “ we deliberately lured IDF in ambush, we sunk another IDF ship, we shot down helicopter, we shot down F-16 etc”…

Actually, Hezbullah denied shooting down an F-16. The others though they have claimed.
 

isthvan

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Actually, Hezbullah denied shooting down an F-16. The others though they have claimed.

You are right, Hezbollah officials denied F-16 shot down, but after Al- Manar reported it... But my point is that many of Hezbollah news statements are later proven false... There reports have less and less credibility latle…
 

crazyinsane105

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isthvan said:
You are right, Hezbollah officials denied F-16 shot down, but after Al- Manar reported it... But my point is that many of Hezbollah news statements are later proven false... There reports have less and less credibility latle…

Yeah, Hezbullah doesn't give out accurate reports these days, but neither to the Israelis. Right now the global media takes Hezbullah's word over Israel's on it's death count (the IDF claims they have killed over 200 guerillas yet many news outlets take Hezbullah's word of nearly 46). The IDF saying they would wipe out Hezbullah and they destroyed half of their rockets is simply hard to beleive as well. After nearly four weeks of fighting they have managed to go into four miles of enemy terrirtory (and they have yet to actually capture it).
 

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SO WHAT WEAPON SYSTEM IS THIS? All of the tanks that I have seen are later model merkava and markava 4. this is interesting

Two IDF soldiers were killed on Thursday and two more were seriously wounded in clashes with Hizbullah guerrillas in the village of Rajamin in the western sector of south Lebanon on Thursday. A short time later, one of the wounded succumbed to his wounds at Rambam Hospital in Haifa, raising the number of IDF dead to three.

The soldiers belonged to an armored battalion of the 188th Armored Brigade, working in conjunction with Reserve Brigade 609, also known as the Alexandroni Brigade, one of Israel's most elite wartime units.

**The tank was hit by a Hizbullah anti-tank missile**. Two were pronounced dead at scene, while the two wounded were evacuated to Rambam Hospital in Haifa.
 
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crazyinsane105 said:
After nearly four weeks of fighting they have managed to go into four miles of enemy terrirtory (and they have yet to actually capture it).

They haven't actually been trying to occupy land near the border until recently. If they wanted to roll towards Beirut I'm sure they could. They're more interested in going after Hezbollah than trying to occupy X amount of land.
 

crazyinsane105

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utelore said:
SO WHAT WEAPON SYSTEM IS THIS? All of the tanks that I have seen are later model merkava and markava 4. this is interesting

Two IDF soldiers were killed on Thursday and two more were seriously wounded in clashes with Hizbullah guerrillas in the village of Rajamin in the western sector of south Lebanon on Thursday. A short time later, one of the wounded succumbed to his wounds at Rambam Hospital in Haifa, raising the number of IDF dead to three.

The soldiers belonged to an armored battalion of the 188th Armored Brigade, working in conjunction with Reserve Brigade 609, also known as the Alexandroni Brigade, one of Israel's most elite wartime units.

**The tank was hit by a Hizbullah anti-tank missile**. Two were pronounced dead at scene, while the two wounded were evacuated to Rambam Hospital in Haifa.

I'm guessing it was a Kornet E, probably the most powerful anti-tank weapon the guerillas have in their arsenal. The HJ-9 can probably rip up a Merkava IV, but Hezbullah doesn't have HJ-9's.... I'm guessing the tank probably has tremendous damage after it was hit.
 

isthvan

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crazyinsane105 said:
Yeah, Hezbullah doesn't give out accurate reports these days, but neither to the Israelis. Right now the global media takes Hezbullah's word over Israel's on it's death count (the IDF claims they have killed over 200 guerillas yet many news outlets take Hezbullah's word of nearly 46). The IDF saying they would wipe out Hezbullah and they destroyed half of their rockets is simply hard to beleive as well. After nearly four weeks of fighting they have managed to go into four miles of enemy terrirtory (and they have yet to actually capture it).

Well I believe that truth is somewhere in the middle as always… Israelis can’t really know what percentage of Hezbollah rockets they destroyed since they don’t know how many Hezbollah has but they destroyed quite allot of them. Not enough clearly but they at least provide some proof for there claims. Also while I doubt Israeli reports about Hezbollah casualties I also don’t trust Hezbollah’s claims either.

As for Israeli operations in south Lebanon it looks that they were conducting raids and recon operations in last for weeks and weren’t trying to occupy territory… No matter how good Hezbollah strongholds are they wouldn’t last long if Israelis decide to move whit full force. Hezbollah strength is in guerilla warfare not in conventional warfare.
 
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