ISIS/ISIL conflict in Syria/Iraq (No OpEd, No Politics)

AssassinsMace

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Said to be F-22 strike.

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Doombreed

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I don't get the use of cruise missiles in the strike. Why use expensive cruise missiles instead of GPS guided bombs? Syria is not gonna shoot the planes down

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delft

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I don't get the use of cruise missiles in the strike. Why use expensive cruise missiles instead of GPS guided bombs? Syria is not gonna shoot the planes down
These things have a limited life span. It is use them or dismantle them. Owning them is an expensive hobby.
 

SouthernSky

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Re: 2014 ISIS attack in Iraq: News, Views, Photos, Videos

RAAF Air Task Group has arrived in the Middle East.

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Australia always present alongside USA, Desert Shield/Storm, Iraqi Freedom ... as UK.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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Okay lots to post lets start with the news
Air strikes in Syria hit Islamic State-held areas near Turkey: monitor
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BEIRUT (Reuters) - Air strikes overnight hit Islamic State-held territory in Syria near the Turkish border, near an area that tens of thousands of Kurds have fled as the militant group advanced, an organization that tracks the Syrian war said on Wednesday.
Rami Abdulrahman, who runs the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, said the warplanes that carried out the raids around 30-35 km (19-22 miles) west of the city of Kobani, also known as Ayn al-Arab, had come from the direction of Turkey.
There was no other confirmation of air strikes in the area and Reuters could not independently verify the report.
Abdulrahman said it was not clear which country had carried out the strikes, although the planes were not believed to be from the Syrian air force, he said. Abdulrahman's Observatory gathers its information from a network of sources across Syria.
A U.S.-led alliance started air strikes on Islamic State in Syria on Tuesday. Islamic State, which has captured land in Syria and Iraq, launched an offensive against the predominantly Kurdish town of Kobani last week, forcing more than 130,000 Syrian Kurds to flee.
A local official in central Kobani said he had not heard any air strikes close to the town overnight, but that fighting continued between Kurdish forces and Islamic State, which has been trying to consolidate its territory across northern Syria.
Idris Nassan, deputy minister for foreign affairs in the Kobani canton, said Islamic State remained around 15 km from the town in the east and west but had advanced in the south to within 10 km after heavy clashes with Kurdish forces.
"Now I hear the noise of mortars in the south," he told Reuters by telephone. "Islamic State gathered heavy forces there. So did the YPG but Islamic State pushed them back."
The YPG is the main Kurdish armed group.
Redur Xelil, spokesman for the YPG, said Islamic State was still pushing to take the town, despite the start of U.S.-led air strikes against the group in Syria.
"They did not withdraw from any positions and the battles are still continuing at their most intense level in Kobani and also in Ras al-Ayn," he said, referring to Syrian territory further east along the border.
(Reporting by Tom Perry and Sylvia Westall, editing by John Stonestreet and Hugh Lawson
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Would U.S. have right of hot pursuit in Syria?
Sep. 23, 2014 - 09:13PM |


By Stephen Braun
The Associated Press


WASHINGTON — Obama administration officials returned Tuesday to citing Congress’ 2001 authorization to wage war on the terrorists responsible for the 9/11 attacks as legal grounding for its overnight airstrikes against Islamic State militants and an al-Qaida affiliate inside Syria.

But Secretary of State John Kerry has separately raised the idea of a “right of hot pursuit” across borders — a concept with little grounding in international law — as a basis for attacks on the militants.

President Obama has said repeatedly that U.S. troops will advise Iraqi forces but will not be used for combat directly against the Islamic State group. During a hearing last week by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Kerry said the same, but then unexpectedly explained the hot pursuit doctrine, which had not previously been cited by the Obama administration to legally justify any part of its new war.

“So, Iraq is asking us to help them,” Kerry said. “And as a matter of right, if they’re being attacked from outside their country, you have a right of hot pursuit. You have a right to be able to attack those people who are attacking you as a matter of self-defense.”

International law experts said there is a recognized right of hot pursuit to pursue ships escaping in international waters, but there is no similar global legal authority that would allow one nation to violate another nation’s border to pursue an opposing force on land. Even without that precedent, numerous nations have repeatedly taken action across borders — including raids by U.S. troops in recent years pursuing militants from Afghanistan into Pakistan.

A State Department spokesman, Jeff Rathke, elaborating on Kerry’s comments last week, said Kerry was referring to the recognized concept of a nation’s right of self-defense, “which includes the right to use necessary and proportionate force to address armed attacks that emanate from another nation, if that nation is unwilling or unable to address the threat.”

Administration officials alluded to the self-defense concept on Tuesday, saying that both the Islamic State group and Khorasan were dangers both to the U.S. and its military coalition partners in the Mideast aiding Iraqi forces.

Officials said the 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force against terrorists provides Obama with a basis to attack both Islamic State and Khorasan targets. The officials said the Khorasan group in Syria has direct ties to al-Qaida and is linked to bomb testing inside Syria and planning for terrorist actions against U.S. and Western interests. The Islamic State group broke with al-Qaida earlier this year and has yet to be linked to active plots against the U.S., but officials said it retains historic ties to the terror group and presents a threat because of its reliance on foreign fighters, whose ranks include some Americans.

U.S. forces used fighter jets, bombers and cruise missile in strikes against Islamic State and Khorasan targets in northern Syria on Monday, Pentagon officials said. Officials also said Bahrain, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and the United Arab Emirates are aiding the offensive.

Neither Kerry nor his spokesman identified which military forces might rely on “hot pursuit” as legal basis for strikes or other military action. But Kerry’s comments, which came during an exchange with Sen. Ben Cardin, D-Md., closely followed a discussion about the role U.S. and Iraqi forces and an international coalition would play in countering the Islamic State threat.

Cardin had asked Kerry how the government should obtain congressional approval for a war that would also “protect us against any lengthy particularly combat involvements in these countries in the future.”

Kerry responded that “our lawyers also are clear that Iraq has a right of self-defense, and Iraq is exercising its right of self-defense and asking the United States to help it. And we already have a military agreement with them with respect to that.”

International law authorizes military action if a nation can show it is acting in self-defense. But even recognizing that nations have repeatedly invoked their self-interest in striking at opposing forces across borders, legal experts said there is no governing international legal code that recognizes a reflexive right of hot pursuit on land.

Temple University law professor and international law authority Peter J. Spiro said the hot-pursuit doctrine is well-established in criminal law, used to justify U.S. law enforcement pursuit of an armed fugitive across state lines. But Spiro added that “without some justification or U.N. National Security Council authorization, any use of force will comprise a violation of Syrian sovereignty.”

There is clearer authority when it comes to pursuit on the sea. The 1958 Geneva Convention codified authorities’ right to pursue and apprehend ships that have violated a nation’s laws and have escaped from a country’s national waters into international waters. Kerry cited that law in 2008 when, as the incoming chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, he called for the pursuit of pirates onto land in Somalia. The United Nations Security Council later authorized sea-to-land pursuit in Somalia.

As a Swift Boat commander during the Vietnam War, Kerry practiced a version of hot pursuit on his own, beaching his boat to pursue Vietcong guerrillas firing from land. In one incident, Kerry shot and killed a Vietcong armed with a weapon and was later awarded the Silver Star — even though his superiors had ordered boat commanders not to risk combat on land.

Associated Press writer Matthew Lee contributed to this report.
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Army chief: Division headquarters will deploy soon to Iraq
Sep. 23, 2014 - 04:58PM |


By Michelle Tan
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As the U.S. expands its war against the Islamic State, the Army is preparing to deploy a division headquarters to Iraq.

Officials have not identified the division that will deploy — the first division headquarters to go to Iraq since the U.S. withdrawal in 2011.

An official announcement is expected in the coming days. But Army Chief of Staff Gen. Ray Odierno recently confirmed the Army “will send another division headquarters to Iraq to control what we’re doing there, a small headquarters.”

It’s unclear how many soldiers will be sent, or how long they will deploy. Division headquarters average between 100 and 500 soldiers and deploy for one year.

The division headquarters deploying to Iraq is expected to be responsible for coordinating the efforts of the 1,600 troops President Obama has sent to Iraq. Many of these troops are advising and assisting the Iraqi Security Forces, others are providing extra security, while others are providing intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance capabilities. The headquarters also is expected to head up the joint operations center that since July has been run by Maj. Gen. Dana Pittard, the deputy commanding general for operations for U.S. Army Central.

Odierno’s comments were made Friday to a group of defense reporters in Washington, D.C.

During the wide-ranging interview, Odierno discussed the critical role played by the Army’s two-star division headquarters.

“The complexity of the environment that we have to operate in now, and probably the next 10 to 15 to 20 years, we need these headquarters,” he said. “If you ask me one of the stress points in the Army, it’s our headquarters.”

The Army has 10 division headquarters, including two in Afghanistan and one in South Korea.

On Monday night, the U.S. mounted its first airstrikes in Syria, targeting the Islamic State and also the Khorasan group, a little known terrorist cell.

Monday night’s massive air assault hitting 22 targets across Syria was a historic operation that signals a new expansion of a war that is likely to last for years.

U.S. Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps aircraft dropped precision-guided missiles on two separate and distinct extremists groups, targeting command-and-control headquarters, barracks, training camps logistical nodes and other sites, defense officials said.

“You are seeing the beginning of a sustained campaign,” Lt. Gen. William Mayville, the Joint Staff’s director of operations, told Pentagon reporters Tuesday.

On Friday, Odierno also emphasized that destroying the Islamic State will be a long-term effort.

“We have to realize this is a long-term threat, this is a long-term commitment,” he said. “If you don’t believe they want to attack the West and America, you’re kidding yourself. That is their goal.”

Staff writer Andrew Tilghman contributed to this report.
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Attacks on Syria 'beginning of sustained' war, Pentagon says
Sep. 23, 2014 - 09:28PM |


By Andrew Tilghman
Staff writer

It was the first time the U.S. sent its most advanced fighter jet, the F-22 Raptor, into combat.

It was the first time the U.S. military targeted the Khorasan group, a little-known terrorist cell that is potentially more threatening than the Islamic State militants who now control large swaths of Iraq and Syria.

And it was the largest coalition of Arab militaries joining an American-led operation since the 1991 Gulf War in Iraq.

Monday night’s massive air assault hitting 22 targets across Syria was a historic operation that signals a new expansion of a war that is likely to last for years.

U.S. Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps aircraft dropped precision-guided missiles on two separate and distinct extremists groups, targeting command-and-control headquarters, barracks, training camps logistical nodes and other sites, defense officials said.

“You are seeing the beginning of a sustained campaign,” Army Lt. Gen. William Mayville, the Joint Staff’s director of operations, told Pentagon reporters Tuesday.

Asked about the duration of this campaign, he said: “I would think of it in terms of years.”

Monday night’s attacks involved about 200 munitions, a defense official said, making it far more intense than the air campaign over Iraq that began Aug. 8, which have rarely targeted more than one or two sites at a time.

It’s unclear whether the operation, which has no formal name, will keep up the same pace. “The tempo of this thing will be dictated by the facts on the ground and ... it’s driven by the opportunities that we see,” Mayville said.

He noted the challenge of mounting airstrikes without a small team of U.S. troops on the ground to help identify accurate targeting information. However, he said, those troops, typically known as joint tactical air controllers, or JTACs, are not necessary.

“There are other ways to deliver precise munitions than putting a JTAC forward. … There’s obviously a desire to put something on the ground. But we don’t always have to strike with JTACs forward.”

“We’ve been doing this very successfully thus far. … We’ve been able to provide air support without putting forces forward, and I think we will continue to look at how we can do that as we move forward,” Mayville said.

Mayville reiterated the longstanding policy of keeping U.S. boots off the ground. “We have not put, and we will not put, ground forces into Syria,” Mayville said.

F-22 sees action
Monday night’s air attack was the first real-world combat mission for the F-22, the Air Force’s most capable air-superiority fighter that entered service in 2005. The F-22 has sophisticated radar-evading capabilities and can drop bombs from a greater distance than other military aircraft.

Use of the F-22 may reflect high-level concerns about Syria’s formidable air defense systems. Yet Mayville said U.S. intelligence aircraft found the Syrian air defense system in a “passive” mode during Monday night’s operations, meaning the Syrian military was monitoring the U.S. aircraft but not using its radar for targeting purposes and threatening to use anti-aircraft weaponry.

The assault occurred in three waves, with the first beginning at 8 p.m. Eastern time (before dawn Tuesday in Syria). More than 40 Tomahawk Land Attack Missiles were launched from two Navy ships, the destroyer Arleigh Burke and the guided-missile cruiser Philippine Sea. The missiles hit extremists linked to the Khorasan group, a little-known al-Qaida offshoot that has established a safe haven in eastern Syria.

Striking the Khorosan group was intended “to disrupt the imminent attack plotting against the United States and Western interests conducted by a network of seasoned al-Qaida veterans,” according to a statement from U.S. Central Command. The missiles hit some training camps and improvised explosive device “manufacturing workshops.”

The group has been “actively recruiting westerners to serve as operatives and go back and blend into their own countries,” one senior administration official said Tuesday.

A second wave of airstrikes targeted Islamic State militants. It involved F-22s, F-16 Fighting Falcons, F-15 Strike Eagles, B-1 bombers and unmanned aircraft. Those aircraft likely flew from Air Force bases in the U.S. Central Command region.

The third wave began about midnight Eastern standard time and featured Navy and Marine Corps F/A-18 Super Hornets flying from the carrier George H.W. Bush, which is in the Persian Gulf. Those aircraft hit Islamic State targets near the border with Iraq’s Anbar province, including a training camp.

The U.S. did not coordinate with the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, whom the U.S. government opposes. But Mayville did acknowledge that the U.S. government notified the Syrian government about the strikes beforehand.

President Obama spoke from the White House on Tuesday morning and highlighted the participation of several Arab allies, including Jordan, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. While the UAE participated in the 2011 American-led operations in Libya, Monday’s coalition is the largest group of Middle Eastern militaries since the alliance the U.S. led in 1991 against Iraqi forces in Kuwait.

Their participation was a diplomatic victory for Obama, who has strenuously sought to prevent the perception that America is operating alone.

“The strength of this coalition makes it clear to the world that this is not America’s fight alone. Above all, the people and governments in the Middle East are rejecting ISIL and standing up for the peace and security that the people of the region and the world deserve,” Obama said Tuesday, using one of the Islamic State’s variant acronyms.

The coalition’s participation was limited to the strikes on the Islamic State militants; the strikes against the Khorasan group involved only U.S. aircraft.

It remains unclear the extent of the operational role that the allied militaries played. Mayville acknowledged that U.S. aircraft delivered the “preponderance of force.”
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Okay now a little know your enemy,
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This means Some Islamic groups are modifying and developing makeshift artillery and fighting vehicles. This follows the Libyan model.
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Scyth

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The Dutch are also considering deploying F-16s to combat ISIS/ISIL. Right now, the parliament is discussing this deployment. A decision is expected to be made later this day. One of the issues that need to be overcome are the legal questions with regards to using military force in a soevereign state with or without a mandate of the UN.

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“The complexity of the environment that we have to operate in now, and probably the next 10 to 15 to 20 years, we need these headquarters,” he said.
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“You are seeing the beginning of a sustained campaign,” Army Lt. Gen. William Mayville, the Joint Staff’s director of operations, told Pentagon reporters Tuesday.

Asked about the duration of this campaign, he said: “I would think of it in terms of years.”
This will have spectacular effects on the stability of many currencies, especially the dollar.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
last economic report i saw today was talking about a strong Us Dollar.
but Economics are not the subject of our intrest
Obama urges international cooperation in confronting ISIS threat
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President Obama, in an address before the U.N. General Assembly, issued a call for international cooperation in confronting terrorism on the heels of an expanded military campaign against the Islamic State.

Obama said nations are staring into the "heart of darkness" with the violence in Iraq and Syria. He urged nations to "reject the cancer of violent extremism."

He spoke two days after the U.S. and Arab allies launched a barrage of airstrikes in Syria against Islamic State and other targets.

The strikes continued on Wednesday, with the Pentagon reporting the U.S. conducted two more airstrikes on an Islamic State staging area in eastern Syria.

Rear Adm. John Kirby said the target was an area used by the militants to move equipment across the border into Iraq.

In the Syria operation, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and the United Arab Emirates joined the U.S. earlier this week in carrying out airstrikes, while Qatar played a supporting role.

The airstrikes were not only aimed at ISIS, but also an Al Qaeda-linked terror cell called The Khorasan Group, which the Pentagon said was nearing the "execution phase" of a direct attack on the U.S. or Europe.

Meanwhile, the British parliament is expected to be recalled Friday to discuss a possible role for the U.K. in airstrikes against ISIS. The BBC reported that Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi will formally request that Britain join in the campaign. Both al-Abadi and his British counterpart, David Cameron, are in New York this week for the U.N. General Assembly.

Cameron told NBC News Tuesday evening that the fight against ISIS was a battle "you cannot opt out of.

"It has oil, it has money, it has territory, it has weapons, and there's no doubt in my mind it has already undertaken and is planning further plots in Europe and elsewhere," Cameron said.

The BBC reported that any British involvement against ISIS would be limited to Iraq, but not Syria due to concerns raised by the opposition Labour Party. That party's leader, Ed Miliband, told the BBC that any proposed airstrikes against ISIS in Syria would need to be backed by a U.N. Security Council resolution. Such a prospect is unlikely due to the influence of Russia, which holds a veto on the council and has roundly criticized this week's U.S.-led airstrikes.

Obama is scheduled to meet with al-Abadi following his General Assembly speech Wednesday morning.

On Wednesday afternoon, Obama will convene an unusual meeting of the U.N. Security Council, during which members were expected to adopt a resolution that would require all countries to prevent the recruitment and transport of would-be foreign fighters preparing to join terrorist groups such as the Islamic State group.

However, Obama administration officials have acknowledged that U.N. resolutions can be notoriously difficult to enforce.

Early Wednesday, Syrian activists told the Associated Press that aircraft had conducted at least 10 airstrikes on suspected ISIS targets near the border with Iraq -- though the Pentagon referred only to two.

The BBC, also citing activists, reported airstrikes around the town of Kobane, near the border with Turkey. Witnesses said that they saw two military aircraft approach the area from the direction of Turkey, but officials from that country denied that their airspace or bases were used in any attack.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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