ISIS/ISIL conflict in Syria/Iraq (No OpEd, No Politics)

Franklin

Captain
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The USS George H.W Bush (CVN-77) is sendt to the Persian Gulf to give the US government more options to deal with the crisis. This by no means guarantees that there will be air strikes against the ISIS. In my view this is a low risk deployment the Iranians are not suicidal and won't attack a USN carrier especially now that for the first time since the Islamic Revolution the US and Iran are in serious negotiations to resolve the nuclear dispute and there is prospect to get some of the sanctions lifted. Another reason why i don't expect hostility from Iran is that this is one of the few times US and Iranian interest coincide as both the US and Iran sees the ISIS as a serious threat to their interest and security. And even if there are air strikes the USN pilots won't face any serious threats as the ISIS neither have an air force nor an integrated air defence system to counter US air power. Of course making bombing runs on a hostile force is always a dangerous task and should not be taken lightly but in this case i really don't see any serious threats to the US forces in this deployment even if it comes to a bombing campaign.
 
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TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
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Analysis: ISIS, allies reviving 'Baghdad belts' battle plan
By BILL ROGGIOJune 14, 2014


Iraqi and Syrian towns and cities seized by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Sham. Map created by The Long War Journal. Click to view larger map.


The lightning advance of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Sham and its allies from Mosul to the outskirts of Samarra, as well as its capture of several towns in eastern Diyala, all over the course of several days, appears to be part of a greater strategy to surround the capital of Baghdad before laying siege to it. This plan, to take over the "belt" region outside of Baghdad and cut off the capital, appears to be the same strategy used by the ISIS' predecessor back in 2006.

The 2006 plan, which was drawn up by the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI), the forerunner of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Sham (ISIS), was discovered after the US found a crude map on the body of Abu Musab al Zarqawi, al Qaeda in Iraq's leader who was killed by US forces in Baqubah in June 2006. The "Baghdad belts" map was released by Multinational Forces-Iraq during its offensive to liberate vast areas under al Qaeda/ISI control in 2007 and 2008.

Zarqawi's plan was to seize control of the outer provinces and Baghdad's belts, or key areas surrounding the capital. The ISI would then use its bases in the belts to control access to Baghdad and funnel money, weapons, car bombs, and fighters into the city. The ISI also planned to strangle the US helicopter air lanes by emplacing anti-aircraft cells along known routes in the belts areas around Baghdad.


Al Qaeda in Iraq's map of the Baghdad belts, found by US forces on Abu Musab al Zarqawi's body in June 2006.

In the ISI's 2006 plan, the Baghdad belts were divided into five regions: the "Southern Belt," which included northern Babil and southern Diyala provinces; the "Western belt," which included eastern Anbar province and the Thar Thar area; the "Northern belt," which included southern Salahaddin province and cities such as Taji; the "Diyala belt," which included Baqubah and Khalis; and the "Eastern belt," which included the rural areas east of Baghdad.

Watching the ISIS' operations today, it appears the group is attempting to implement a strategy which is very similar, if not identical, to the previous one. This should come as no surprise; Nasser al Din Allah Abu Suleiman, ISIS' current war minister, was a leader in al Qaeda in Iraq/ISI when the Baghdad belt strategy was implemented. Suleiman was appointed by al Qaeda in May 2010 to serve as the terror group's top military commander after his predecessor, Abu Ayyub al Masri, was killed in a raid by Iraqi and US forces in April 2010.

US intelligence officials contacted by the Long War Journal who have extensive experience with al Qaeda in Iraq and the campaign to dislodge the group that began in 2007 said they believe the ISIS has dusted off its old plans to encircle Baghdad.

ISIS marches to the Baghdad belt

ISIS took the first step at the beginning of the year when it seized control of Fallujah and most of Anbar province. ISIS advanced to the outskirts of western Baghdad in March and April, when it captured Karma and Abu Ghraib.

After taking control of most of Anbar, ISIS launched a series of bombings and attacks in northern Babil province and southern Baghdad. The town of Jurf Al Sakhar is said to have fallen under ISIS control. The towns of Musayyib, Yusufiyah, Mahmoudiyah, Iskandariyah and Latifiyah in the so-called "triangle of death" area south of Baghdad have seen an uptick in attacks. These areas, which include a significant Sunni minority, sit along the fault line with Sunni and Shia, and were controlled by the ISI prior to the US surge in 2007.

ISIS' control of Anbar as well as eastern areas in neighboring Syria allowed it to set its sights on northern, central, and eastern Iraq. Over the past week ISIS forces, backed by allied groups such as Ansar al Islam, Jaish Muhammad, and even the Baathist-led Army of the Men of the Naqshbandi Order, seized control of Mosul and then swept southward, taking over Tikrit, Bayji, and several areas outside of Kirkuk before the southward advance was halted at Samarra.

ISIS forces also pressed into eastern Diyala province, capturing villages and towns in the Hamrin Mountains as well as Jalula and Saadiyah, and are threatening to move into Khalis and Baqubah.

As ISIS and allied forces moved southward, units also attacked along the highway between Samarra and Baghdad. The town of Dhuluiyah, just east of Balad, fell to ISIS units, while heavy fighting was reported in Taji, a city on the outskirts of Baghdad. Dhuluiyah was retaken by Iraqi forces on June 13.

Dislodging ISIS will be a difficult task

The ISIS advance toward Baghdad may be temporarily held off as the government rallies its remaining security forces and Shia militias organize for the upcoming battle. But at the least, ISIS should be able to take control of some Sunni neighborhoods in Baghdad and wreak havoc on the city with IEDs, ambushes, single suicide attacks, and suicide assaults that target civilians, the government, security forces, and foreign installations. Additionally, the brutal sectarian slaughter of Sunni and Shia alike that punctuated the violence in Baghdad from 2005 to 2007 is likely to return as Shia militias and ISIS fighters roam the streets.

Even if Iraqi forces are able to keep the ISIS from fully taking Baghdad and areas south, it is unlikely the beleaguered military and police forces will be able to retake the areas under ISIS control in the north and west without significant external support, as well as the support of the Kurds.

The ISIS and its allies are in a position today that closely resembles the ISI's position prior to the US surge back in early 2007. More than 130,000 US troops, partnered with the Sunni Awakening formations and Iraqi security forces numbering in the hundreds of thousands, were required to clear Anbar, Salahaddin, Diyala, Ninewa, Baghdad, and the "triangle of death." The concurrent operations took more than a year, and were supported by the US Air Force, US Army aviation brigades, and US special operations raids that targeted the ISI's command and control, training camps, and bases, as well as its IED and suicide bomb factories.

Today, the Iraqis have no US forces on the ground to support them, US air power is absent, the Awakening is scattered and in disarray, and the Iraqi military has been humiliated while surrendering or retreating during the jihadists' campaign from Mosul to the outskirts of Baghdad. The US government has indicated that it will not deploy US soldiers in Iraq, either on the ground or at airbases to conduct air operations.

ISIS is advancing boldly in the looming security vacuum left by the collapse of the Iraqi security forces and the West's refusal to recommit forces to stabilize Iraq. This has rendered the country vulnerable to further incursions by al Qaeda-linked jihadists as well as intervention by interested neighbors such as Iran. Overt Iranian intervention in Iraq would likely lead any Sunnis still loyal to the government to side with ISIS and its allies, and would ensure that Iraq would slide even closer to a full-blown civil war, and risk a wider war throughout the Middle East.



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Ansar al Sharia Tunisia leader says gains in Iraq should be cause for jihadist reconciliation
By THOMAS JOSCELYNJune 14, 2014

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The head of Ansar al Sharia Tunisia, Abu Iyad al Tunisi, has released a statement calling for reconciliation between the Islamic State of Iraq and the Sham (ISIS) and other jihadist groups. The statement was published on June 13, with the banner shown above, on the group's Twitter feed.

Abu Iyad hails the mujahideen's "conquests in the Land of the Two Rivers," saying they should serve to bring together all of the "jihadist factions that fight to raise the banner of monotheism" and seek to enforce Islamic sharia law. Abu Iyad says the mujahideen should set aside their differences and "open their hearts to a new comprehensive reconciliation," according to a translation obtained by The Long War Journal. All of the jihadists should also reconsider their "policies in the Levant based on the latest regional developments."

There have been multiple attempts at reconciling the ISIS with other jihadist groups in Syria, including al Qaeda's official branch, the Al Nusrah Front. The ISIS emir, Abu Bakr al Baghdadi, and other members of the group's leadership have repeatedly refused these entreaties. But Abu Iyad says the jihadists should once again seek a "comprehensive reconciliation" plan.

Abu Iyad says he "defers these demands" to al Qaeda head Sheikh Ayman al Zawahiri and the emir of the Al Nusrah Front, Abu Muhammad al Julani. If the pair announce their support for the gains made by the ISIS, other jihadist factions, and the Sunni tribes in Iraq, then it "might result in orders by the lead of the disputing organization that would put an end to infighting."

The head of Ansar al Sharia Tunisia also addresses Abu Bakr al Baghdadi. Abu Iyad says the head of ISIS should "swiftly respond to the demands of the revered leaders and scholars," who have called on him both in public and in private to reconcile. Ramadan is a good time to end the infighting, Abu Iyad argues, especially as the infidels' "projects" are collapsing throughout the region.

This is the second time since the beginning of the year that Abu Iyad has released a statement on the jihadist infighting. In January 2014, he published a message urging the rival factions to reconcile and focus their efforts on the Syrian regime. Abu Iyad said that he considers the ISIS, the Al Nusrah Front, and all the jihadi factions to be his "brothers." The Ansar al Sharia leader called on a number of jihadist figures, including Zawahiri (the "doctor of the Ummah" and "sheikh of the Mujahideen") to resolve the matter.

In his January statement, Abu Iyad also named Abu Qatada as one of the jihadist leaders who could help end the ongoing dispute. Abu Qatada is imprisoned in Jordan. Despite his confinement, Abu Qatada has released a number of statements criticizing the ISIS.

Earlier this year, Ansar al Sharia Tunisia also promoted a letter that Abu Qatada wrote at the behest of Abu Iyad. In the letter, Abu Qatada covered events in Libya, Syria, and Tunisia. He praised the participation of Tunisia's youth in the Syrian jihad as a "blessed matter." [See LWJ report, Abu Qatada provides jihadists with ideological guidance from a Jordanian prison.]

Ansar al Sharia recruits from Tunisia (as well as Libya) have reportedly gone off to fight in Syria in droves, which is likely one reason Abu Iyad has taken a keen interest in the infighting.


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ABC78

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Im sorry but I don't think it will happen. There's too much divide between the groups. I honestly have trouble seeing the groups coming together longer than it takes to get rid of ISIS before they fight themselves domestically again. Liberal democracy in Iraq has failed. For a stable state you need rule of law, functioning economy, and infrastructure, but Iraq has none of those. That also gives nothing for democracy to sustain on.

I wouldn't be surprised if the ISIS offensive was repulsed and the Iraqi factions were still at odds. Like I said "potential" there's no guarantee but one would like to have a measure of hope the Iraqis have been through alot.
 

ABC78

Junior Member
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Iraqi commander abandons position to regroup at headquarters but HQ is overrun by ISIS.

[video=youtube;F7HT1S1OrG8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7HT1S1OrG8[/video]
 

ABC78

Junior Member
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[video=youtube;DkQXsAg2nJ4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkQXsAg2nJ4[/video]

Kurdistan seems to be fairing well and holding strong unlike the rest of Iraq.

[video=youtube;gGuXuSLxDnY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGuXuSLxDnY[/video]
 

Broccoli

Senior Member
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Kurds say Iraqi air force accidentally hit their convoy and killed 7 people.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
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The BBC is reporting that the ISIS has released pictures and video of its fighters executing Iraqi soldiers who surrenders en mass.

If that is true, then this is the moment ISIS looses the momentum in Iraq.

The first and most important rule when fighting a demoralised foe is to treat your prisoners well.

By executing prisoners, what ISIS will do is ensure any Iraqi unit they encounter in future will fight to the death rather than surrender since they will know that surrendering to the ISIS is to die anyways.
 

delft

Brigadier
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The website of my favorite radio station says that, according to Al Arabiya, the Syria air force has attacked "ISIL" bases in coordination with the government of Iraq.

Will the US administration now consider Iran and Syria to be allies of the US? :)
 
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The discussion of ISIS/ISIL without the mention of Saudi Arabia is not a valid discussion at all. ISIS/ISIL is a Saudi proxy even more than the Assad government in Syria and the Shiite factions in Iraq are Iranian proxies. Their latest march through Iraq is just a continuation of the Saudi-Iranian/Sunni-Shiite rivalry.

It is neither the place nor time for the US to get involved, in fact it marks the final step of a return to a regional balance of power which is most preferable and least costly to the US since Saddam Hussein's Iraq became an unreliable part of the Sunni camp when he attacked Kuwait. With both Syria and Iraq in contention, neither the Saudis/Sunnis nor the Iranians/Shiites have the upper hand against each other and will have to focus most of their resources against each other.

This buys time for the US to become less dependent on Middle East energy, keep Islamic extremists busy within the region instead of roaming the world, and free up resources to deal with other priorities, such as containing Russia and China.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
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The website of my favorite radio station says that, according to Al Arabiya, the Syria air force has attacked "ISIL" bases in coordination with the government of Iraq.

Will the US administration now consider Iran and Syria to be allies of the US? :)

In Black Ops and behind the scenes to fight the ISIL maybe, but not in front of the cameras of course.:p
 
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