Is China planning a Military Strike beyond its borders?

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If Beijing primary concern is Xinjing breaking away, then the simple solution would be to send sufficient immigrants to the region and take away that possibility.

You can't just send in immigrants. Even if you can, the immigrants would eventually leave if life is harsh. You need to create opportunities and attract people to the region under their own free wills. That way, people will stay there indefinitely, create more opportunities, and attract more people to the region. Not to mention the fact that you would be able to stand on a moral pedestal and claim how you respect people's freedom to live where they please.

Bumping people off is a short-term fix, vs. settling Xinjing with people is the long-term solution. Rather than sending migrants into existing cities and clashing with long-time Uighur residents, maybe planning and creating brand new cities dotted across Xinjing would be better?
To pull that off, the mayors will need to be able to play SimCity very well, but that might also get SimCity banned from being sold to China.:roll:
 

GreenestGDP

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What China needs to do is put a price on people's heads. Beijing simply announces that it will give a generous sum of money (say $100 million USD) to somebody who kills so-and-so or the money goes to their family. Remember all these targets try to be public figures. They travel around drumming up support for their "cause." They are extremely vulnerable to assassination.

There are poor desperate people in every country. It could be very attractive for somebody at the end of their rope to decide to leave some money for his family by assassinating a political figure visiting. Or if they can do it hidden, Beijing will give them asylum and enough money for life :nana:

Big Bravo, your suggestion is absolutely fantastic. :china:
We can start by giving out bounty to Rebiya Kadeer head and
promise lifetime safe heaven and heavenly living on Earth to the Assassin Snipers. :nana:

It is about time the PRC leadership use smart ways to put these low life terrorists on the defensive. It is very hard living if one has to worry about Assassin Snipers and defend the possibility of attacks every single minute.

There are many Top Gun Snipers all over the world who can use the Bounty to set themselves up for lifetime Heaven on Earth living.
 

vesicles

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To pull that off, the mayors will need to be able to play SimCity very well, but that might also get SimCity banned from being sold to China.:roll:

Wasn't that how Shen Zhen was built? About 25 years ago, Shen Zhen was a fishing village of ~10,000 people. Now it's one of the largest cities in china.
 
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williamhou

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Wasn't that how Shen Zhen was built? About 25 years ago, Shen Zhen was a fishing village of ~10,000 people. Now it's one of the largest cities in china.

Shenzhen is the only city bordering Hong Kong, a key trading hub and is situated in the heart of the Pearl river delta. It is also a costal city with one of the world's best natural deep water harbours.
 
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SampanViking

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Well, I have noted a number of things in the past few weeks which does nothing to dispel my suspicions that something is cooking.

The first thing to say is that a regional aspect has shown itself rather than a simply Chinese undertaking. In late July, the regional meeting in Dushanbe, Tajikistan of Russia, the Tajiks, Pakistan and Afghanistan to discuss the problem of terrorism cast specific geographical boundaries from the SWAT valley of Pakistan to the Rasht Valley of Tajikistan. Both areas form an arc which encompass also the Trehan Valley in Afghanistan. That such an action would come under the Aegis of both CSTO and SCO should come as no surprise.

Secondly, we have reports in Xinhua of the Chinese authorities capturing active Uighur cells in Xinjiang with a cryptic reference of sensitive information also being found

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We also have the curious incident of the Jet liner last week.

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In addition we also have over the last few days some very tantilising snippets from the military itself.

The first is the rushing through of new rules of engagement specifically for anti terrorist operations

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While today we learn of long distance deployments of 50,000 troops as part of a new Military Exercise called Stride 09. This has sent large numbers of troops crossing the length and breadth of the country for exercises that will last up to two months.
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The main thing of interest in this is that it means people have been warned to expect the sight of large numbers of troops heading long distances in all directions for a period that represents the rest of the fighting season in Central Asia.

Nothing is of course definitive, and is all plausibly deniable. It is also true that if action was an option on the table then these are the kind of signs you would expect to see and we are seeing a lot of signs in an increasingly rapid succession of the type that we have not seen previously.
 

Raptoreyes

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More like detrimental to the China Communist party/Government.

Agreed. This has nothing to do with the Chinese people. The only opinions that matter in China are those of the elite. Its hard enough to keep the people in Republics engaged enough to keep the elite from rule by default. In China nothing short of pulling the communist party up by the roots and the people planting a replacement, would even have the potential to widen the numbers who have a real say.

If Europe does not want to help the Chinese government, I can understand. The last time a Western power became helpful to the communists in China, it was when Washington pressured Chang Kai Shek to negotiate with the communists in 1946, instead of supporting Chang's armored push into Harbin. Most of the west remains rather unhappy with all the eventual results. (especially in retrospect! read China Without Tears by Arthur Waldron the article was also published in a book called What If edited by Robert Cowley) for an idea of how badly "the west shot itself in the foot".

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Considering the track record so far, Washington and Brussels likely wants no part of internal Chinese politics, if things look even slightly ambiguous. :confused:

If China is warming up for a fight perhaps some bland non committal rhetoric/happy talk about economic co-operation is in order for western diplomats. The Communist party needs to understand that the Communist party is not well liked in the world even though Chinese manufacturers, engineers and scientists enjoy a good reputation. The smaller powers might love a multi polarity that allows them to switch sides constantly for the best economic deal of the moment but that is not the same as love or respect.
 
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Raptoreyes

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Well there is a selection of good and fair points, what I cannot get away from though is that we have a senior and very experienced Chinese diplomat using the words "Terrorist" External" and "Counterstrike" in context in the same statement. Diplomatic language is very circumspect in this matter (protocol) and you do not use "counterstrike" in the context of Internal security.

I agree this language sounds more like the Chinese Communist party is cutting and pasting lines from a Kim Jong Ill press release. Saying this is a bad sign is perhaps painfully redundant. Smoothing over ruffled feathers would be wise so long as the communist party is given what it needs and not what it asked for. Thoughtful symbolic gestures to help the communist leadership save face are appreciated by that political entity to a remarkable extent. However the West should never speak out against the Politburo's enemies unless they are well established enemies of the west too. There are ways of walking this tightrope diplomatically but America has little tradition of the Republics governments getting the best and brightest (those people are siphoned off by private industry and influential non profits first, while the US government typically gets what is left over)


Another good point, but is this a measure of willing co-operation or an acknowledgment that China's power has grown to the point that requests from Beijing need to be taken seriously and accommodated?

Actually the west likely saw a future problem for themselves and decided to play nice on something they would have to do someday regardless. If the communist party thinks we did it primarily because they asked us to, so much the better.
 
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