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Richard Santos

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As I understand it, the Indian Ocean is relatively calm compared to the North Atlantic, which makes the decision not to have a bulbous bow quite strange.

Queen Elizabeth class has a bulbous bow and I'm quite sure the RN hasn't forgotten about North Atlantic conditions.
I am quite sure the RN doesn’t believe the primary theater for the QE would ever be in the North Atlantic. The QE‘s reason for being is to remind the US of the usefulness of Britain to the continued global hegemony of the US. So the QE would fight where the US would likely deem her own influence to be in need of forceful assertion. That would almost certainly never be in the North Atlantic In the next 30-40 years.
 

ironborn

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It’s entirely untrue that a ship can not ride well without a bulbous forefoot. Bulbous forefoot is primarily used to reduce wave making resistance at specific speeds in relatively calm seas. it tends to slam in very heavy seas, increase the stress on ship structure and make the ship’s motions more jarring.

navies that put heavy emphasis on operating in very heavy seas, such the British Royal Navy and the Canadian navy during world war 2 and the Cold War, were generally reluctant to adopt bulbous forefoot long after it has become standard on new warships of other countries.
Bulbous bow is for larger ships travel at certain speed, for smaller ships ( less than 4000 ton ) or at relatively low speed ( say less than 12-14 knots ), it doesn't produce much advantage, for a heavy ship like an AC, that primary function it to launch and recover aircraft, speed and stability, especially with skip jump launch, having bulbous bow provides more advantage than not having one.
 

Richard Santos

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One should not let the shallow and uncouth delights of taking cheap shots obscure the fact that people who actually managed to build real aircraft carriers, even ones that don’t impress you, are in reality quite unlikely to be incompetent at making simple obvious design trade off decisions as you imply.

if they made trade off decisions that seems obviously wrong to you, the chances are strongly on the side of their having seen things which were not obvious to an armchair amateur like you.
 
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ironborn

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One should not let the shallow and uncouth delights of taking cheap shots obscure the fact that people who actually managed to build real aircraft carriers, even ones that don’t impress you, are in reality quite unlikely to be incompetent at making simple obvious design trade off decisions as you imply.

if they made trade off decisions that seems obviously wrong to you, the chances are strongly on the side of their having seen things which were not obvious to an armchair amateur like you.
When just about every aircraft carriers in current service regardless which country's navy have the same feature built-in, except one, the conclusion is kind obvious.
 

Richard Santos

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When just about every aircraft carriers in current service regardless which country's navy have the same feature built-in, except one, the conclusion is kind obvious.
naval history is replete with examples of countries that did things differently from a consensus of everyone else for very good reasons. In some cases the good reasons reflect the particular circumstances of that country, not shared by everyone else. In other cases events prove the odd man out actually made the better choice than the consensus of everyone else.
 

NiuBiDaRen

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India's aircraft carrier is just designed with Indian characteristics of bobbing and rocking
 

56860

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naval history is replete with examples of countries that did things differently from a consensus of everyone else for very good reasons. In some cases the good reasons reflect the particular circumstances of that country, not shared by everyone else. In other cases events prove the odd man out actually made the better choice than the consensus of everyone else.
Or sometimes it's just, you know, poor engineering? Since this is India we're talking about here I think that's the most likely option.

Some brilliant Jai Hind tier cope you have going on there, though.
 
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