From this Economic Times article, the Vikrant is :
- Currently undergoing final sea trial at Karwar near Gujarat.
- Hand over to Indian Navy in August
- No decision has yet been made on which fix wing aircraft (26) will be used.
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From this Economic Times article, the Vikrant is :
Apparently its called the 'Agnipath Scheme', and for some reason, Indians are angrily protesting it.
Oh I see. The Indian military wants to recruit 450000 to 50000 troops per year. They want to rapidly recruit troops, but want to avoid the costly pension bills by releasing most of these troops after 4 years.
6 months of basic training, then straightaway deployed to the field for 3.5 years. That's quite a rush to get fresh bodies to the field. Very suspiciously aimed at China. Rushing 6-month trained new recruits into India-China border. What could go wrong?
I thought the Indian youths would be patriotic to volunteer to serve their nation? I thought that this is way better than that 'single-child' conscription practice in China? So why are Indians protesting against it?
It looks like many Indian youths are really upset about the Agnipath Scheme. Why?
So the issue is job security? When Indians are facing an unemployment crisis. The Indian military can only give a 4-year contract. So most Indians are more concerned over this than actually being grateful to serve the nation. So what about that legendary Indian patriotism? The thing they so often say that will give the Indian Jawans greater morale advantage over those Chinese 'single child conscripts? Is money more important than the honor of serving and dying for India?
Only in India, where the youth fears homelessness after completing 4 years of military service. This fear doesn't exist in Israel, South Korea, and Singapore. Not even in China.
The Indian top brass apparently only wants bodies on the frontlines, aka more Jawans. They don't really care if they can actually fight. Are they really that desperate?
Jai Hind!
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I mean that wasn't mandatory right? Then why do they burn trains and vandalize things if they disagree with the scheme?
To me it seems like a convoluted way to reduce soldier numbers. Reduce numbers by increasing numbers temporarily.
How will they decide which 25% to keep in 4 years? It's one thing to have a fitness test for admission, but 4 years in it seems strange to use something like that for a long term contract. Maybe they will check their balls as a test like that video posted here?
It is not mandatory. I think the main cause of that anger is that 75% of military applicants would no longer enjoy permanent employment in the military. Which also means no special benefits and pension upon retirement. So it's all about job security and money at the end of the day.
India doesn't need conscription, because their 'demographics dividend' should provide more than enough volunteers. The problem is that there are too many volunteers. The Indian military want them all, but only want to fully pay 25% of them with professional rates, 4 years later.
Actually I don't see it that way. I see that as a convoluted way to go cheap on maintaining a sizable size of soldiers.
They could recruit about 50k of new soldiers a year. Then discard 75% of them 4 years later. Only 25% or about 12500 of them can get to be employed as full professionals with full benefits and pensions.
In a way, the Indian military is aiming to grow sizable force, but also pay less to maintain that force. They want more bodies, but want to do it cheap.
So the real big question is, why do they wanna go cheap?
I thought it's already finished construction and is awaiting commissioning?
Serious question: This carrier was built with Indian steel, Russian 'aviation complex', Israeli radar & SAM. Italian guns, Russian CIWS, indigenous combat management system with Russian collaboration, US engines, Indian gearboxes, Italian or Spanish air surveillance radar.
Aren't the logistics on this thing going to be a nightmare?
India + logistics/maintenance dont match togather. Have you seen their aircraft composition..
IAF aircraft come from eight countries
Is that why Indians are good managers
They are good at creating problems first and then solving them