Dates back to Independence era mentality - back then, they were neck and neck with China, and could say that out of the world's former great empires and civilizations, they were still doing better. Now they can't even do that, and cannot stomach the reality.
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You should put Israel in front of UK and France. Look around its capability both in quantity and tech with force multipliers like high altitude AWACS and its advance air defense systems. Alot of Israeli airforce fighters have CFTs, 600 Gallons tanks and increase MTOW. they train for heavy deep strikes. Israel power will further increase relative to Europe due to shifting of Arab wealth and Russia ejecting Europe from Africa.
Russia is in very different league. they can wipe out European airforces on the ground. Europe simply not have capability for interception at extreme ranges and higher speeds.
The 8 Su-34M arrived last year from 76 on order with about 132 already delivered. it function like JSTAR and EW combined aircraft. exact numbers will be classified but it gives general idea. Su-34M is far more complex aircraft than Su-30/SU-35 as it airframe is designed to take stress of heavier fuel tanks , heavier pods with pilots training for 10 to 12hour missions. Those requirements are not present in other two. infact the factory for Su-35 had surplus for export to China/Egypt/Indonesia. if some of them not taken. it will be assumed they went to VKS as there is no such thing as idle machines. same thing happened with Su-30SM for VKS and Navy. 200 Su-30SM and 150 Su-35 is ball park figure.
I find the underestimation of RuAF very amusing. Second most powerful strategic bomber force and you are telling me UK and France are ahead?
Anyway this is way off topic.
Anyway this is way off topic.
I corrected myself immediately after realising (being reminded) of Russia's impressive bomber fleets. That alone secures them top 3 at the very least. I was only thinking air to air, CAS, and half influenced by ridiculous Reddit propaganda and selective material on VKS performance.
Israel also neglected, certainly up there with UK and France in number of 4, 4.5, and 5 generation fighters in comparison to UK. France should be step below simply for not having any 5th gens in service at all.
India being ranked 3rd is simply absurd. Not a single 5th gen fighter on the horizon (AMCA ages off and doubtful to the nth degree), 36 4.5 gen fighters in total and 4th + 4.5 gen fleet not even half of China's. No bombers, no AWACS of their own and even imported ones are fewer in numbers in all of India than in a single Chinese SIGINT platform equipped airfield. No drones of note or merit (Rustom vs literally more types of UAVs and UCAVs in PLAAF than I can remember). IAF's genuine ranking ought to be below Japan and South Korea. IAF also uses extremely outdated air to air missiles outside of the 36 Rafales. Astra tries to reach AIM-120C/ modern PL-12 levels but only now making an entrance. Air to ground similarly limited in scope and capable platforms and weapons. French, Russia, and Israeli electronics, sensors, platforms, weapons all being integrated. No decent networking and comms between. An utter joke. In an actual war, the IAF would have more problem with logistics and integration of the mass of chaotic platforms than they would against PAF. They'd only be getting somewhere against PAF via sheer firepower and numbers... plus the boost in capability provided by the 36 Rafales.
The comments are really something
One of the tragic misconception of our age: if China could do it I can too
See: X-2 Shinshin, AMCA, Chandrayaan-2
It's actually worse. They think what they make is better while seething with pure hatred and cope.
Do we have an update on construction of Vikrant?
I know the bhakts are trying to justify the delays by saying the aircraft carrier can fly in the air and launch A380s, but still
I know the bhakts are trying to justify the delays by saying the aircraft carrier can fly in the air and launch A380s, but still