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Stealthflanker

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There isnt much can be done on Rafale's radar tho as French are more concerned with carrier landing visibility than to attain large power aperture products. They seems already happy with 60 cm aperture.

One way to gain more is to increase TRM ratings which apparently they did for middle eastern customer (UAE) or further attempt to reduce receiver noise figure, but kinda doubt this will be productive as current figures of some 2-3 dB is already great. any lower might require, say even cooler receiver like one did for radiotelescope, but this seems impractical for fighter radar.
 
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Rafale can only fit the same size radar as a lightweight fighter while it is a medium weight fighter.

It'll always lack in radar range compared to its peers in the medium weight category.
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To be fair, not like it's bad.
 
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India "will" build 2 brand new SSN and buy 31 MQ9B drones to counter big bad China. Yet another one of those big and bold announcements.
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will build two nuclear-powered submarines and buy 31 US-made long-range drones at an estimated cost of 350 billion rupees (US$4.2 billion), senior officials familiar with the matter said, helping to counter China’s military dominance in the region.
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How long is this all gonna take before we see these things in the water and in the air?

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A source told the paper that it will take 10 to 12 years to commission the vessel, termed an SSN – meaning ‘ship submersible, nuclear’ – which will have a 190 MW pressurized light-water reactor and displacement of almost 10,000 tons.

“The two SSNs will be around 95% indigenous, with foreign help only being taken for some design consultancy,” a source said.
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India to commission two 95% indigenous SSNs in 10-12 years? Very optimistic indeed. I know that they have already built the Arihant-class SSBNs. So on paper, the experience, knowledge, and supply chains should speed up the development and construction of the new SSN class. But still, this is India.
 
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That pricetag on MQ-9s is something else, though.
Each MQ-9 unit(iirc couple of UAVs, control center) costs premium even when compared to a fully stocked/armed export F-35.
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Indian price. There is always a much higher price when military systems are sold to India. Yet the Indians are only too happy to buy them at that price. Why? That fatter price tag would make some big boys in the Indian government very happy.
 
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taxiya

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Stealthflanker said:
There isnt much can be done on Rafale's radar tho as French are more concerned with carrier landing visibility than to attain large power aperture products. They seems already happy with 60 cm aperture.

One way to gain more is to increase TRM ratings which apparently they did for middle eastern customer (UAE) or further attempt to reduce receiver noise figure, but kinda doubt this will be productive as current figures of some 2-3 dB is already great. any lower might require, say even cooler receiver like one did for radiotelescope, but this seems impractical for fighter radar.
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I'm curious why is that. Is not like the Rafale has the same nose-up position the Super Etendart did for example.
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I guess it is not about visibility and nose position, but the aerodynamic design. The front fuselage is optimized for lift by not only canard but also the shape of the fuselage where canards attach. Imagine increasing the nose diameter, the rest also need to change shapes and most likely larger.

J-10 seems to have bigger nose but that is a vastly different design in terms of vortex and lift generation, a midium coped canard. It is same in Eurofighter which is far coped canard. Neither of them has the kind of forward fuselage shape that Rafale has.

It all boils down to the specified role and application within a compact body, close-coped canard for very high lift for short take-off and acceptable maneuverability (favors midium to long coped canard), compact body for carrier. This is the reason that France to break away from the joint European effort that gave birth to Eurofighter and Rafale.
 
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Sardaukar20 said:
India "will" build 2 brand new SSN and buy 31 MQ9B drones to counter big bad China. Yet another one of those big and bold announcements.
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How long is this all gonna take before we see these things in the water and in the air?

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India to commission two 95% indigenous SSNs in 10-12 years? Very optimistic indeed. I know that they have already built the Arihant-class SSBNs. So on paper, the experience, knowledge, and supply chains should speed up the development and construction of the new SSN class. But still, this is India.
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They say that the SSNs will displace almost 10000 tons (which I believe is submerged displacement).

For a country that has only built 2 smaller-than-contemporary-sized SSBNs so far (which actually took one hell of a long time to build), and no history of building nuclear-powered boats before 2004 - Near-10000 tons for their first ever SSN sounds ambitious.

Not even the Astute, non-SSGN Virginias and Seawolfs displace that much while submerged (i.e. 7800-7900 and 9100 tons) lol.

I won't be surprised if that figure gets revised to be lower later on.
 
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