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Some insight on Indian RnD effort toward engine and overall challenges facing them, there is however a part i disagree

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Regardless one have previous experience or not, it's actually quite normal process for an engine to be developed concurently with the platofrm, say Su-27 was developed together with AL-31F and in US F-100 was developed with F-15's. F-135 and 136 developed for JSF/JAST program and of course EJ-200 developed for Eurofighter program.
I think they may have been referring to not an "available engine" but more of "available engine technology". As in, it's unwise to attempt to develop an engine far beyond one's own capabilities in tandem with a platform that is reliant on this extremely difficult task.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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The Indian Military as a whole can't seem to catch a break. One of the IA Navy MQ-9 drone purchased from the U.S. (at a steep price) has crashed, and it's been alleged that the drone wasn't even operated by the IA Navy but be General Atomics personnel.


While the Indian Army is getting severe criticism from their defense enthusiast upon seeing the mishmash of uniforms worn by their soldiers during the Indian Army's exercise with it's U.S. counterparts. The helmet is straight up vintaged WWII, boots that are described as rudimentary and the ongoing utilization of INSAS rifle that should have been phased out years ago.

Speaking of their helmets:

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Holy wow!!
 

RedMetalSeadramon

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Speaking of their helmets:

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Holy wow!!

"We need helmets"
"Modern helmets are Kevlar or specialized polymer sandwiched between two pieces of fiberglass reinforced-"
"Fiberglass! get us fiberglass right now!"
"Sir its not the fiberglass that provides-"
"No, fiberglass now! cheap, domestic and my nephew can hire people that wears slippers in a factory/warehouse to make them. Fiberglass now!"
 

gelgoog

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Some insight on Indian RnD effort toward engine and overall challenges facing them, there is however a part i disagree

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Regardless one have previous experience or not, it's actually quite normal process for an engine to be developed concurently with the platofrm, say Su-27 was developed together with AL-31F and in US F-100 was developed with F-15's. F-135 and 136 developed for JSF/JAST program and of course EJ-200 developed for Eurofighter program.
He is totally wrong. The right way to do it is to develop the engine first and then the aircraft. The US typically funds the basic technologies to make the next generation engine like a decade or more before starting development on the actual engine. When it is time for the aircraft prototypes to be finished, they already have a working prototype engine. The Russians typically have difficulty with developing engine technology, and they often start development of the platform with an existing engine, and then switch to the intended engine later closer to serial production.
 

johncliu88

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"We need helmets"
"Modern helmets are Kevlar or specialized polymer sandwiched between two pieces of fiberglass reinforced-"
"Fiberglass! get us fiberglass right now!"
"Sir its not the fiberglass that provides-"
"No, fiberglass now! cheap, domestic and my nephew can hire people that wears slippers in a factory/warehouse to make them. Fiberglass now!"
Indians make good crazy glues.
 

mossen

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By invoking the "Jaguar model," the IAF is seeking a partner willing to provide full access to the aircraft's source codes and integration capabilities for radars, mission systems, and weaponry. This approach would reduce dependence on foreign OEMs and mitigate potential supply chain vulnerabilities arising from geopolitical factors.

However, this demand for autonomy could pose a challenge for aircraft manufacturers who traditionally rely on long-term service contracts and upgrade programs for sustained revenue. By internalizing the upgrade process, the IAF could significantly reduce the OEM's role in the lucrative post-sale support and modernization phases, potentially disrupting the established business model in the aerospace industry.

Let's see if there are any takers for this. I remain skeptical.

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The US is apparently pressuring India not to buy more Rafales. Is India a sovereign country or not?
 
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