But I don't think they are that widespread, because we would have heard about them already, so that means yes, in the future, it will be an aspect of society, but it will not widespread enough to define China as it have in the past.
How did China change in Culture, from Imperial era to today.
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But I don't think they are that widespread, because we would have heard about them already, so that means yes, in the future, it will be an aspect of society, but it will not widespread enough to define China as it have in the past.
It's mainly a Taiwan based chinese term.
Next discussion, I wonder when China became strong again, what cultures influence it will have, to spread all over the world to define them as who they are.
By cultural influence I mean for example, here in America, we think American culture as Hollywood, Cars, the American dream, Freedom, Democracy, the ability to advance in society by your own hard work, multi-national corporations such as McDonald, coca-cola, Apple etc... also American are view as strong, arrogant, dominate, self centered etc...
And for Japan, you have animations, magma, Sushi, good technology, video games, Sony and weird porn stuff etc...
For Korea, you have... Korean drama, Korean food..
What about China? I mean I would think in the past Chinese culture must have been very strong, because it has spread it is influence of Confucianism, Taoism, Buddhism(I know it is originally from India), over Japan, Korea, Vietnam etc.. And even when it was conquered by outsiders, they still adopted to Chinese culture and was actually able to help it to spread further.
I feel as of right now, China's economy influence has outstripped it is cultural influence worldwide, only because China's crazy economic growth for the past 30 years, but if they want to influence the world just with economy will not be enough, you need economic, cultural and military influence all working together, like USA today.
So question is, why did the ancient Chinese culture had so much advantage that it is so easily able to influence others, and is this influence still here, and if it is, it is still strong enough to influence others(Confucianism, Taoism, Buddhism), and if yes or no, then China need to develop new cultural influence to spread all over the world, so what we might see in the future that make Chinese culture distinctive and attractive to the world.
Here is what I know when the world think of China toady, Chinese food, martial arts, very old history... and of course, you still have plenty of the perception of red communists, slave labor, cheap manufacturing crap etc...
(Please stay on topic, enough of the concubinage stuff this month)
By cultural influence I mean for example, here in America, we think American culture as Hollywood, Cars, the American dream, Freedom, Democracy, the ability to advance in society by your own hard work, multi-national corporations such as McDonald, coca-cola, Apple etc... also American are view as strong, arrogant, dominate, self centered etc...
And for Japan, you have animations, magma, Sushi, good technology, video games, Sony and weird porn stuff etc...
For Korea, you have... Korean drama, Korean food..
What about China? I mean I would think in the past Chinese culture must have been very strong, because it has spread it is influence of Confucianism, Taoism, Buddhism(I know it is originally from India), over Japan, Korea, Vietnam etc.. And even when it was conquered by outsiders, they still adopted to Chinese culture and was actually able to help it to spread further.
I feel as of right now, China's economy influence has outstripped it is cultural influence worldwide, only because China's crazy economic growth for the past 30 years, but if they want to influence the world just with economy will not be enough, you need economic, cultural and military influence all working together, like USA today.
So question is, why did the ancient Chinese culture had so much advantage that it is so easily able to influence others, and is this influence still here, and if it is, it is still strong enough to influence others(Confucianism, Taoism, Buddhism), and if yes or no, then China need to develop new cultural influence to spread all over the world, so what we might see in the future that make Chinese culture distinctive and attractive to the world.
Here is what I know when the world think of China toady, Chinese food, martial arts, very old history... and of course, you still have plenty of the perception of red communists, slave labor, cheap manufacturing crap etc...
(Please stay on topic, enough of the concubinage stuff this month)
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Chinese economic prosperity and order helped promote its culture much as the US did in the 20th century. If China were to completely supplant the US as the dominant economic power in all aspects you'll be seeing countries aping Chinese culture much like the ancient period. Substantive power helps promote cultural influence much more readily than the lack of it.
Chinese culture is traditionally an inward looking culture.
To have a broader influence on foreign countries, we have to take into account the newer and younger generation of Chinese people, what impact would they make in the world.
As long as China's entertainment and social (internet) medias are still inward looking, ie catering to domestic audience (actually good for them as the market is vast) we will see little push for global exposure.
The 90s Japanese popular culture boom was a byproduct of their economic prosperity during the 80s.
The current Korean pop culture boom is a byproduct of the same effect above, and also a fierce push by their entertainment industries and government, because the Korean market is very small, so to profit they must target foreign audience, which they has done with great success.
Many people refer to the Hollywood, and the greatness of American culture influence throughout the world.
But it is a combination of many factors, long and great history, successes and failures, that bring it to what it is in the present time.
It will take decades for China, if it ever comes to it.
To have a broader influence on foreign countries, we have to take into account the newer and younger generation of Chinese people, what impact would they make in the world.
As long as China's entertainment and social (internet) medias are still inward looking, ie catering to domestic audience (actually good for them as the market is vast) we will see little push for global exposure.
The 90s Japanese popular culture boom was a byproduct of their economic prosperity during the 80s.
The current Korean pop culture boom is a byproduct of the same effect above, and also a fierce push by their entertainment industries and government, because the Korean market is very small, so to profit they must target foreign audience, which they has done with great success.
Many people refer to the Hollywood, and the greatness of American culture influence throughout the world.
But it is a combination of many factors, long and great history, successes and failures, that bring it to what it is in the present time.
It will take decades for China, if it ever comes to it.
My view is that China will develop a modern cultural projection of its own in due time, it is more a matter of people complaining about why it isn't here right now rather than understanding its actual ongoing development.
I disagree that China is not a massive export of culture nowadays as it was eons ago. You have your HK movie industry; my friends from Malaysia and Indonesia have watched HK soap operas; Taiwanese movies etc.
The goubiao (GB) national codes, have been adopted by central Asian countries and even to an extent to some countries in Africa.
And we most certainly cannot forget the Chinese export of warfare - tunneling to Vietnam, Maoist's people's warfare to.. Cambodia, Cuba, Nepal, India, USA (black panther movement) etc.
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Every culture is inward looking as you know your own culture the best. Hollywood never made a popular movie that showed Americans losing a battle. Bollywood, never one that show India in disgrace.
The fact is that China is a very outward looking civilization. You will practically find Chinese people in any country trying to make a living, - who believed that it is for their good and their children's good to go abroad. Like the Chicken farms in Africa, the random factory here and there.
Just because the way China exports sinoism differ than the flashy western methods does not mean that it does not exist. e.g. I can bet you a lot of people around the world learned how to use chopsticks in a Chinese restarunt or many who learned kungfu because of bruce lee
well reality is people outside Western AND Chinese culture use spoons and forks not chopsticks
they watch Western movies, music, and fashion, they talk American pop culture and lingo
Pres Hu, Prem Wen, and all Chinese officials wear Western style clothing
even China herself is under Western culture invasion
Bruce Lee however awesome, is just one guy, and he is dead
When stomachs are filled and pockets are full, i'm sure Chinese people will show the world what they can become intellectually and culturally
they watch Western movies, music, and fashion, they talk American pop culture and lingo
Pres Hu, Prem Wen, and all Chinese officials wear Western style clothing
even China herself is under Western culture invasion
Bruce Lee however awesome, is just one guy, and he is dead
When stomachs are filled and pockets are full, i'm sure Chinese people will show the world what they can become intellectually and culturally
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What you say is really moot and is a generalization.
The thing is, you have already found inherently Chinese cultural influences as international norm. From civil examination systems to paper money.
The reality is that a lot of westerners know how to use chopsticks, what they use normally doesn't matter. You seem to disregard that Chinese people have been using forks and spoons from antiquity as well; I hardly see it as an western influence.
Bruce Lee is one man, but he represent the surge of eastern martial arts in the eyes of westerners. Which western movie with close combat after bruce lee does not have close combat involving kungfu / fancy martial arts?
Suits.. doesn't mean much, it is not a purely western innovation, but for all intent and purpose, it is just an accepted business norm to wear suits. Just like international trade is generally done in USD -> like all ships having a rudder does not mean that they are following Chinese designs.
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