I thought you sounded a little defensive over the fact that the Western MSM was painting Xi JingPing's wording of “粉身碎骨” in a twisted way to mean something very sinister. Actually, at this moment, I think that is a good thing for China, not a bad thing.
Hong-Kong Protests
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I thought you sounded a little defensive over the fact that the Western MSM was painting Xi JingPing's wording of “粉身碎骨” in a twisted way to mean something very sinister. Actually, at this moment, I think that is a good thing for China, not a bad thing.
manqiangrexue
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Yeah, it would be a good thing and it would be what I want to see but that's not what's happening. I'm emphasizing that Western MSM is again brainwashing its readers into thinking something that is completely untrue or a fabricating a huge spin off of a small and innocuous thing. The emphasis is that Western MSM is criminally at it again, not that it would be terrible if Xi meant his words in a literal way. It would be awesome if it were the latter.
In Chinese tradition, we are very cautious about lying. If you read Guiguzi (《鬼谷子》), you will know that this famous book about deception and diplomacy, repeatedly emphasizes for truthfulness. Lying is the lowest and the least effective form of of deception and persuasion. This is why I don't worry about any lies about Western MSM at all.
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
Interesting weekend I've had. I was hanging out with some Republican friends I hadn't seen in a while and I had to hear their version of the world. But not as weird having to argue with a liberal today. He was pro-Hong Kong protestor and not surprising admittedly knows little about Hong Kong except for what US news was reporting and how the there was no violence except from the police. I had to break it to him there are many videos he can choose from on the internet of protestors attacking civilians just for not agreeing with them. He refused to even look at them because his word was final and didn't need to see videos because he believe anyone who choses the side of the US has to be following all the principles of Western democracy and freedom. He said if there are videos, they're all staged and fake videos by Beijing. He was telling me how I was making assumptions that they were protestors attacking innocent people and I said like you're making assumptions admitting knowing little of the situation? Then he told me how dictatorships have a history of faking attacks by groups that oppose them and then he said it happened during Tiananmen Square where there were "all these videos" everyone could see. I told him I never seen any propaganda videos claiming protestors were the ones that instigated violence because there was no internet back then to see such videos. In his desperation to win against me he forgot there was no internet to see any fake videos by the government out there to claim it was happening then. Any fake videos to make such a claim, it was controlled by the MSM media putting it out there. The MSM is not showing the other side of what's happening in Hong Kong now. Why would they show Chinese propaganda back then when they were in control if that information was released to public? I caught him on his flub so he them claimed I was brainwashed by the Chinese government. And I said like you where all you're doing is following stereotypes when admittedly knows little about the history of Hong Kong.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
Anyone who doubt co-ordinated western MSM propaganda campaigns against China only need to look at the reporting of this particular ‘story’.
This particular farce continues a long, disgusting and racist tradition in western media of deliberately mistranslating common, every day China phrases and says to distort its meaning, undermine the message said, and make cheap racist jokes even the most talentless And lazy comedians would not lower themselves to make.
This kind of translation ‘error’ is not something anyone with even the most rudimentary language skills would make, and most certainly not a mistake professional translators working for major international news agencies could possibly make.
Yet you have pretty much the entire western MSM making a meal of this non-story based entirely on this mistranslation. Speaks for itself.
This is what it has come down to, not only is China and HK attacked by the combined misinformation warfare of the western MSM but the politicians themselves. Carrie Lam in this press conference has said it the way it is, had the same happen in the US and Chinese press and politicians did the same, I am sure there would have been more then just a hostile verbal exchange.
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But of course her speech has been edited and translated by the media to be as obfuscating as possible. This is exactly why those of us who know the truth must spread it as much as possible. The posters who think it doesn't matter are clearly mistaken or have ulterior motives.
Equation
Lieutenant General
Mr Christian Pastor again
Religious terrorist pure and simple. Their motto is follow my god or else!
This is caused simply because lebron refused to comment on the ongoing protest, quite understandable since most western public figures are uninformed and can't read/speak chinese. Look at what HK protesters wrote in their forum. After all the despicable acts they do against mainland chinese, who would have thought that they will act racist against others too..
Morey should try getting a translator to translate and reread this thread to the houston rockets team. I'm sure NBA and the whole rockets team members will happily join him into supporting the protesters
Morey should try getting a translator to translate and reread this thread to the houston rockets team. I'm sure NBA and the whole rockets team members will happily join him into supporting the protesters
As someone who is against anything straight up anti-China and by extension - rioters who target China... I must say that the accusation of racism on them is quite "out there". I'd like to point out that similar comments can be seen occasionally over at the mainland too ( when something related to "cultural exchange" between Africans and Chinese happen). There were quite some troubles during the 90s when African exchange students tried to "mingle" with local chinese girls...leading the government to expel them back.This is caused simply because lebron refused to comment on the ongoing protest, quite understandable since most western public figures are uninformed and can't read/speak chinese. Look at what HK protesters wrote in their forum. After all the despicable acts they do against mainland chinese, who would have thought that they will act racist against others too..
Morey should try getting a translator to translate and reread this thread to the houston rockets team. I'm sure NBA and the whole rockets team members will happily join him into supporting the protesters
Let us not take it overboard. Focus on the things that matter. The thing that matters here is that the HK teens are pretentious, elitist and live in a bubble. They are selfish and closely resemble the Antifa. I could understand the frustration if there was an erosion of "freedoms" and change of "status quo". Everyone takes time to adjust to big changes and therefore the change in HKs systems and norms can be quite indigestible to the residents. It is only reasonable to expect such demonstrations ( Like occupy central of 2014) as HK comes closer to 2047. Peaceful protests are reasonable. What I think is different and condemn-able is the terrorism, violence and targeting of mainlanders and most importantly Chinese flag and emblems. Also the connivance of Foreign elements and religious elements of the HK society.
China is learning and understanding ( although somewhat bitterly) the elements and the forces that are intending to wreak Havoc to it. It is learning about the modus-operandi and the types of attacks.For Once, China has let the mainlanders as well as anyone who supports the PRC see the elements that it ought to be wary about. Imagine you've been reading about ball lightnings and finally get to see it by chance ! That is what is happening right now. The conspirators of HK had revealed their hands, albeit immaturely, and gave the PRC a small course on " Dissent and destabilization in the 21st Century". This is quite different from the dissenters and troubles in Xinjiang or Tibet...This is modern dissent in the age of internet, mass media, MSM and Foreign vested interests.