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What is the meaning of the X thing?
Hong Kong....Occupy Central Demonstrations....
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What is the meaning of the X thing?
AssassinsMace
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Where's your proof and empirical evidence that you personally know no expatriates fled the handover and only locals? Any reasonable person can see that expatriates would flee out the fear of doom and gloom prediction over the handover. That was 1997. The internet was at it's beginnings back then. So what proof are you expecting. And I expect the same proof from you of that absurdity that no expatriates left Hong Kong
All my news I mentioned... all came from the Western media. I don't read hard news from any other source. You now why? Because I know people like you can't refute it without admitting the Western media is capable of lying.
airsuperiority
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To express "no" or dissatisfaction.
Blackstone
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No worries, Air, it happens. Thanks for the clarification, we're good.
Brumby
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You are the one making the assertion that expats were fleeing because of the behaviour of the Hong Kongers. I am asking you to substantiate it. I did not say no expats fled the handover. If they did I would not know. I did say HK being a major financial centre is subject to people movement all the time. This could be for all sorts of reasons. You are attributing it to a particular source and reasoning. The onus is not on me to defend an assertion that you made.
Yes more so the locals than expats for obvious reasons which I had already commented upon before and will not repeat.
I noticed you tend to use this kind of approach frequently when discussing opposing views and that is in your reply you frame the opposing view into a manner which clearly what was not said. I did not make any assertions that no expats left HK. That is a ridiculous proposition to make and to logically defend.
This is another behaviour I noticed of you and that is to frame the immediate discussion into a collection of things that other people said with the implication that the person have to defend the views of others. Please attribute a comment made by me to the statement that Western media is incapable of lying.
ahhh another poor fella who likes to think that his cause is more noble than all that comes before and will somehow transcend the proven patterns of politics. let me give you a few examples: Vancouver? pretty modern, fairly peaceful, doesnt stop hooligans from lighting the streets up after that loss to the Bruins (and screw the bruins may I add), I would say the same for Quebec G8 protesters, more recently Toronto had too put down some hooligans during the G20 which caused a big ruckus. This is Canada we are talkin about, peaceful people, known around the world for being polite (definitely better known than HKers) doesnt stop a few youngsters who believed that their "causes" translate into legal immunity from wrecking the party for everyone.
now i am not saying that HK protesters will inevitably descend into chaos, for i dont have a crystal ball to look into. but neither do you, so for you to resolutely declare this as impossible, based on a childish notion of "good guys do good things", is nothing short of preposterous.
Brumby
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The anarchist are ever present in those G type meetings. it is a job for them fed by a welfare system. They get the press coverage because it is a G type meeting. You don't see them operating in more oppressive systems because they either end up in a long term cell or with a bullet but stories like that will probably not surface because it is likely censored. You have to try harder with another analogy.
Your faith in protesters remaining peaceful is very impressive. For their sake I hope so too. But cynics like me would not have as much faith as you do. But then again, this is a developing story so we will find out soon enough.
AssassinsMace
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Then why are you arguing with me in the first place if you knew expatriates fled Hong Kong? Maybe because you just don't like me? Boo-hoo-hoo. I didn't argue numbers. Ironic since you expected people in here to have a open definition of words... Now you're so anal about numbers. You should practice what you preach. I mentioned expatriates because the British flag waving Hong Kongers value their presence and they shot themselves in the foot by scaring them away with all the doom and gloom. It had nothing to with numbers. The fact is expatriates left Hong Kong over the fears being perpetuated over the handover. Any other meaning you got out of it is your own problem.
That last part. I know you would complain about that because you want no challengers to what you have to say. Hence why you think you can change the meaning of words and expect everyone to conform to the new definition. Yeah people have to blindly follow what you say is right without challenge. I've been asking "proof" from you a long time and you given none. All you do is whine about how I keep repeating things. That's because you refuse to answer the question. Remember, I'm not going by your definition. I'm going by the official definition which your arguments don't fit.
You know what I noticed about you? When you don't or can't answer the question or are outright wrong, you resort to digressing avoiding the subject. What do you think you're doing now? The way I debate is running circles around you. That proves what I do works. When you can't explain what you're arguing, that mean you were emotional and didn't think. Why don't you stop complaining about how I prove your arguments wrong and get back to trying to make a sound argument?
I already know you're just arguing because you don't like what I have to say. That's what makes you slip all the time. You should talk to Blackstone. Blackstone did what you do too.
well he certainly has more faith than the HK police, otherwise they'd have put away their riot gear and gone home to sip some tea lol
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