If true, then the conduct of these protesters can be tolerated. What can not and NEVER be tolerated is conduct like this;
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As long as the current demonstrators allow the above scum to join their ranks, you'll find that no sympathy will be given by the Mainland public.
He's not advocating for violence, he simply doesn't believe these protest leaders genuinely want a peaceful resolution; it's more likely they want Beijing to enact a violent crackdown to elicit international sympathy as a twisted way of "martyring" the students for the leaders' political agendas.
Call it cynicism if you like but there is no malice behind pla101prc's comment. And to be frank, 'inside every cynic is a disappointed idealist'. Do you actually think that none of us wished for a productive and prosperous reunification as opposed to the dysfunctional relationship as of now? Same goes for Taiwan. We've read too many, seen too many and heard too many ethnic self-loathings from HKers and Taiwanese that a statement along the lines of "we're Chinese first and foremost" now comes as a surprise. It's hard to not be cynical about movements like the current demonstrations.
Those are the real a-holes, and yea they don't exist in this protest anymore. This is why I, along with my friends, and a lot of people, are so supportive of the students and this movement now. People are really doing their best, otherwise there's no way I can have so much material to show you.
You gotta understand something man. I build my opinions through piles and piles of what I see and researched. If it's not right I won't support it. And look at how much info I'm sharing with you guys and how long and persistent I kept explaining things to you guys, even though I've said much of these SOOO MANY TIMES.
Trust me, I ain't no pro-independent freaks or whatever, and I will never support such a cause. Most of the HKers don't. Those extremists had been tugged into a black box and stowed away, and people are still being vigilant for troublemakers. This is because those people don't believe what we believe.
But yea trust me man, I can literally put something on bet and all my reputation and credibility for this, because I strongly believe in that much, and that confidence and faith of my people down there that this is what they are believing in too. Otherwise they really won't do all that much. And it's also because y'all are Chinese too and y'all matter, which is why I haven't stopped explaining to you guys and hope to tell you what's happening and shred all those misunderstandings. If I had given up, I won't be here. If I don't care, I won't be here, spending HOURS on this forum lately, getting minimal sleep. We are all Chinese, and heck in HK we even say, it doesn't matter if you're visible minority or from China. As long as we share the common values of work hard and loving this city, you're a HKer. This is why this movement isn't just about locals. It's also about overseas, China, anyone who supports us, Taiwanese, anyone. And after everything, we are still Chinese you know. We are fighting for our future for a better one, and this better one has nothing to do with independence and hating on mainland Chinese. Those rude ones leave a bad name for mainland Chinese and it's not right to stereotype mainland Chinese, but by you guys showing your support, you are supporting us at the most critical moment. I literally screen-captured a post of some mainland Chinese climbing the firewall to show support and how others endorsed him, but I deleted it when I thought you guys won't be able to read it any way.
And honestly you guys should think about this. How many members from HK do you have here. Not many. If I'm gone, will there be anyone to report what's going on. You guys will then be stuck with people preaching the same bias who knew nothing about HK. Seriously do you want to associate with such groups of people?
The misunderstanding and the grievances you guys experience I can really feel, but finally I can prove to you guys that Hk isn't like that, so which world do you actually wanna see? And you guys, if you think about it, had taken out such grievances on me waves after waves, of what those people had said. I ain't those weirdass extremist netizens. I'm a regular forum member with you guys for quite some time. I can understand the frustrations you guys feel and then inflicted on me, but which is why I haven't been calling mainland Chinese bad or anything; I don't believe in that notion. I even called out my people for being racists long time ago, knowing some of those netizens can burn back at me. I being in the middle and understanding both sides is why I'm trying to show you and tell you the truth of what's going on. People inflict their frustrations and grievances of the HKSAR and those rude Chinese and unfortunately use mainland Chinese altogether as scapegoat. The same happened towards the police last year. Police were being called dogs at some point. However now, people are clearer. They realized it's CY Leung trying to fan the flame to divide HK people, and even causing HKers vs mainland Chinese public because all he cares for at the end of the day is the dog biscuit Beijing gives him and doing what he's told to do, not the potential backlash of how public feels and without any actual concerns for people. He's like the person tugging the strings. Also, rude mainland Chinese individuals are leaving a bad name for everyone everywhere. Don't forget, unless a polite and kind mainland Chinese speaks out, no one will know him/her because he looks the same like all of us, and he/she is acting like the rest. Sour grapes always stick out, and unfortunately when they started being rude, they leave a bad brand for others because we don't always see the good one. So what ended up happening is the inevitable human fallacy of stereotype, which is still wrong. Coming from psychology major, I am opposed to that, but unfortunately not everyone knows. Regardless, I must say this movement has positive impact for the mental well-being of HKers as they bonded together through people's support, not material or monetary benefits.
The struggle is real, both in my personal life and what I'm doing here, and it's because I believe and do care about you guys, that's why I haven't give up. I will only present the facts and opinions that was supported by things I've seen, because I don't and won't want to mislead you guys. Think about my shoes and why I'm doing all these. I don't even get paid for this.
